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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't be the first US leader to associate with undesirables...
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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just today, your Comrade Putin visited Erdogan in Ankara .... for new friendship and business (regardless of the civilized line! Laughing ).
"Commentators often note the similarities between Erdogan, 60, and Putin, 62, charismatic strongmen who are both accused abroad of authoritarianism but retain significant support bases at home."
http://uk.businessinsider.com/afp-erdogan-hosts-putin-to-tighten-turkey-russia-alliance-2014-11?r=US#ixzz3KgRXcT5z

Do you think Comrade Putin is the first Russian president to associate with undesirables? Laughing
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Historical enemies don't 'tighten' alliances...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kemal and Vladimnir Ilyich saw themselves as comrades in arms, struggling against Imperialism ! When will we see their like again ?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things kind of soured by the time atomic warheads were stationed in Mustafa's republic on behalf of the encircling Piggie powers...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Kemal died in 1938. Do not blame him for Turkey's membership of NATO !
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one is blaming him for anything : ) But Turkey and Russia have always been enemies historically. Nothing has changed there - notwithstanding the occasional trending-bucking ghazi...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's full of ideas...

Erdogan's Ottoman language drive faces backlash in Turkey
By Humeyra Pamuk, Reuters | 9 December 2014
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/erdogans-ottoman-language-drive-faces-backlash-turkey-164538620.html

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - President Tayyip Erdogan stirred fierce criticism on Tuesday with plans to make lessons in Ottoman Turkish mandatory in high schools, prompting one opposition politician to declare that an army could not force his daughter to learn the language. Erdogan said on Monday that Ottoman, an old form of Turkish using a version of Arabic script replaced by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk with the Latin alphabet on foundation of the secular Republic in 1923, should be taught in schools to prevent younger generations losing touch with their cultural heritage.

"Erdogan's concern is not teaching the Ottoman language...His real aim is a settling of accounts with secularism and the Republic," Akif Hamzacebi, spokesman for the main opposition CHP in parliament. "Erdogan actually wants to revive the Arabic alphabet in Turkey," he said. Opponents accuse Erdogan of behaving like a modern-day sultan, his Islamist ideology and intolerance of dissent taking Turkey far from Ataturk's secular ideals.

"There are people who do not wish Ottoman to be taught and learned," Erdogan told a meeting of Turkey's religious council. "Regardless of whether they want it or not, Ottoman will be taught and learnt in this country." His supporters, who carried him to victory in Turkey's first popular presidential election in August with 52 percent of the vote, see him as a champion of the religiously conservative working classes, standing up to a secular elite.

His comments intensified a debate triggered last week when Turkey's Education Council decided that Ottoman should be taught in Islamic high schools and as an elective in other lycees. "Even if your whole army comes, they can't force my daughter into Ottoman lessons," said opposition politician Selahattin Demirtas, whose HDP party has fought for the rights of Turkey's 15 million Kurds, including education in their mother tongue. Kurdish is still not taught in Turkish state schools.

The Egitim-Sen union of teachers and academics accused the education council of neo-Ottomanism and of trying to reshape the school system along religious lines. Other opponents of the plans dismissed them as farcical. "Are we going to wear a fez while we're learning Ottoman," wrote one critic on Twitter. The Fez hat was also banned by Ataturk as part of his drive to turn an ailing Ottoman theocracy into a Western-style secular state.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ottoman language will be taught in Turkey no matter what the oppositions say.
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk destroyed the culture and the Ottoman language, but my friend Erdogan will rectify the situation and put Turkey on the right track.
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