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Salient Federal Solutions Aviation Australia Riyadh College?
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone heard any news about this job? Any insight into what the atmosphere is like?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
Has anyone heard any news about this job? Any insight into what the atmosphere is like?

Didn't you read my initial post?

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"The facility includes a hangar and aircraft maintenance training environment, Aviation Australia said in a statement, with the first courses to start in December 2014." (http://australianaviation.com.au/2014/09/aviation-australia-sets-up-saudi-training-school/)

It's another school within the Colleges of Excellence system (http://coe.com.sa/Defaulte.aspx). It hasn't even opened, so obviously there's not much about it yet.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, thanks. I was just checking since the school should be open by now.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
I was just checking since the school should be open by now.

Regardless, working in a situation that's brand spanking new is never a smart idea.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Regardless, working in a situation that's brand spanking new is never a smart idea.[/quote]

What are some typical problems that are different from the problems most people complain about on this board?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
What are some typical problems that are different from the problems most people complain about on this board?

Generally, new programs and start ups are fraught with disorganization, long hours, endless screw ups, short tempers, exhaustion, whining among staff/faculty/students, finger pointing, excuse making, yada yada, inshallah... Use your imagination.
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revilo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, it's best to avoid a startup situation, especially in Saudi. I worked at ACK and they went thru teachers like toilet paper. Multimillionaire engineers owned a school and they knew exactly how to extract the most work from teachers and the most money from students.

I must give props to the Aussies for selling vocational education that Arabs want to buy. However, the hard part is quality control which suffers in Arab hands.
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LPKSA



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
$40-$45K annual salary, plus all the usual benefits American companies in Saudi offer. Think again about the long term effects of low-ball salaries.


What they offered me is much higher than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LPKSA wrote:
fledex wrote:
$40-$45K annual salary, plus all the usual benefits American companies in Saudi offer. Think again about the long term effects of low-ball salaries.


What they offered me is much higher than that.


Really, I was told the max was $45K back when I wrote this. No differential or other supplements, just the housing, transport, insurance as usual. I'd be curious if they have become more realistic now.
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LPKSA



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
LPKSA wrote:
fledex wrote:
$40-$45K annual salary, plus all the usual benefits American companies in Saudi offer. Think again about the long term effects of low-ball salaries.


What they offered me is much higher than that.


Really, I was told the max was $45K back when I wrote this. No differential or other supplements, just the housing, transport, insurance as usual. I'd be curious if they have become more realistic now.


I'm about to move towards the second stage of the interview process... More to come. Anyone else looking at this outfit?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does coder delete his posts ?
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickelgoat wrote:
What often happens is that startups in companies owned by Saudis who pay in riyals instead of dollars, often do NOT know what they are doing.

I would guess that a minority of companies don't pay in Riyals. Perhaps some military related contracts pay in the currency of their home country.

Scot47

I assume that Coder wants no posting history to come up in case an employer identifies him. Not a terrible idea, but means that his posts become useless for newbies trying to research employers.

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LPKSA



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nickelgoat wrote:
I will be starting with them shortly. I was nervous as well about anything that would be a startup, but once I visited, felt much better about it. They know what they are doing, and I want to encourage others to give it a chance.

What often happens is that startups in companies owned by Saudis who pay in riyals instead of dollars, often do NOT know what they are doing. This is completely different.

I'm looking forward to working for them.


I was offered a position with them as well, and it does look promising. I don't know if you are from the USA or not, but the health care plan which this program offers is applicable both in the USA and Internationally...
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