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EasternSpirit



Joined: 20 Dec 2014
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:13 am    Post subject: Heading to Saudi *sigh* Reply with quote

Hi All,

Hope you're all doing great.

After lurking some time I've decided to join Smile

I've read here the nightmare that is EduEdex Sad I've signed a contract with them having waited seven months, I finally had my medical done.

From speaking to them they said I might be placed in Dammam or Aljears /Aljeers/Aljer (not sure of the spelling and can’t find the place because of that). Is anyone currently out there and have any recommendation to offer? I know you have to sign another contract when you get there so will the pay be affected? What compounds can you recommend in those areas because I feel uneasy about their accommodation? And just in case they place me elsewhere, is Al Khobar expat friendly?

I have a graduates degree with TESOL certificate and limited experience, so I know UAE for now is off limits to me.

I'm not worried about the refund issue since I'm aware of how to get it back (small courts) and what to do even if it means flooding their emails and voicemail machine with 100 messages from me!

The most important thing for me is the accommodation/compound issue Sad

Thank you in advance!
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fledex



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When a colleague of mine worked for Edex in that area of KSA, they flew him into Riyadh, gave him a train ticket and enough money for a couple weeks accommodation, and then told him to go out there and find a place. He ended up back at the headquarters in Riyadh in a couple weeks on his own dime, begging for more money so he could rent another place. He had been kicked out of the apartment for not paying any more rent. He stayed in my place in Riyadh, because they weren't even paying for his hotel there. Eventually, he gave up and just got a plane out of Bahrain to a better job.
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Sheik Yerbuti



Joined: 02 Dec 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is green, and then there is emerald green.
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EasternSpirit



Joined: 20 Dec 2014
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
When a colleague of mine worked for Edex in that area of KSA, they flew him into Riyadh, gave him a train ticket and enough money for a couple weeks accommodation, and then told him to go out there and find a place. He ended up back at the headquarters in Riyadh in a couple weeks on his own dime, begging for more money so he could rent another place. He had been kicked out of the apartment for not paying any more rent. He stayed in my place in Riyadh, because they weren't even paying for his hotel there. Eventually, he gave up and just got a plane out of Bahrain to a better job.


Hi Fledex, thank you for your reply. Was this recent?! And did they not arrange one for him or did he opt out to find his own accommodation?

I've been told by the head office in Riyadh that I can't be placed there or Jeddah (I wasn't even looking to, I requested for Dammam), I don't want to be stranded there since I have a set budget before they pay and I can't go to any UAE countries because I don't qualify for the experience Sad

I really appreciate your response.
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EasternSpirit



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheik Yerbuti wrote:
There is green, and then there is emerald green.


Bad idea then? Sad Did you travel there too?
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LPKSA



Joined: 02 Mar 2014
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what you're getting into. Come back here for support when things head south. A lot of people here are helpful.

Seriously, you can have the results from your medical switched to another potential employer, as long as it was YOU who paid for the medical tests.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Aljears /Aljeers/Aljer"

They plan to send you to Algeria ?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Heading to Saudi *sigh* Reply with quote

EasternSpirit wrote:
I have a graduates degree with TESOL certificate and limited experience, so I know UAE for now is off limits to me.
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The most important thing for me is the accommodation/compound issue Sad

Maybe it's Al Kharj? Jizan? Asseer? Whatever.

What exactly are your concerns about the accommodations? If it's company provided and you don't have the option of taking a housing allowance, (i.e., you're not getting a housing allowance), then expect to manage with where they've put you.

Saudi Arabia is especially not a good choice for newbies. Plus, EdEx is one of the sketchiest of the bunch, so really lower your expectations. But if you're having doubts this early in the game, back out now and start responding to other job ads (and hope they also aren't positions with EdEx). Maybe look into jobs with TATI or Hawthorn in Oman.

By the way, what is your grad degree in? There might be other (better) opportunities that you qualify for.
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fledex



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They didn't offer to provide my colleague accommodation there. They sent him with some money to find it. It wasn't in Dammam, but another Eastern city. Ask them before you leave if they have a compound with an apartment ready for you in Dammam. If not, beware.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Heading to Saudi *sigh* Reply with quote

So, welcome.

But you come her for advice from those of us experienced enough in Saudi to provide it and then say
EasternSpirit wrote:
I've read here the nightmare that is EduEdex Sad


which makes it seem as if our advice was worth something in the past and would probably be worth our time giving in the future.

But then you say immediately afterwards:
EasternSpirit wrote:
I've signed a contract with them


Well, there's your first mistake, right there. And if you are going to continue to ignore the advice of everyone on this forum and pursue avenues that many warn you not to go down, then what is the point in providing you with more guidance?

Get off the train before the tracks end... Rolling Eyes


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MENA_chica



Joined: 28 Sep 2014
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Location: Middle East

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:24 pm    Post subject: Al Jouf Reply with quote

OP, I believe you're referring to Al Jouf, which is located in the north of the country. I work at a university in Riyadh, and arrived 2 months ago with EdEx. I've had no complaints, thus far. I was picked up at the airport in a timely manner, signed an identical contract to the one I signed in the UK, given an advance on my salary, paid a few days before the end of the month on both occasions, and received my iqama after 5 weeks. Many of the teachers here have been with the company for 2 years or more, and though there have been and continue to be minor complaints, major issues (such as non-payment) are the exception rather than the rule. There seems to be a lot of "bandwagonist" comments labelling EdEx as a sketchy company etc., so be mindful that while there is a lot of information on this and other sites, there's also quite a lot of hearsay, as well as outdated information.

Regarding accommodation in Al Jouf, my friend's experience has been that she was housed in an apartment temporarily until she found her own, for which she used her accommodation allowance. She says that the place is really conservative, with all women expected to wear the niqab, as well as being questioned by the police when venturing out alone. In Dammam, there were some concerns about the deplorable state of the company-provided accommodation, but I was told teachers were recently moved to new accommodation.

Hope that helps.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe some familiarity with the geography of Saudi Arabia would help !
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Al Jouf Reply with quote

MENA_chica wrote:
I work at a university in Riyadh, and arrived 2 months ago with EdEx. I've had no complaints, thus far.
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There seems to be a lot of "bandwagonist" comments labelling EdEx as a sketchy company etc., so be mindful that while there is a lot of information on this and other sites, there's also quite a lot of hearsay, as well as outdated information.

Just because your personal experience with EdEx differs from others doesn't make their opinions hearsay or outdated information. There are teachers who continue to have issues with the company; their experiences should not be discounted. EdEx's sketchiness comes from the company's inconsistencies and cheesy practices---they're a mixed bag.
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MENA_chica



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Al Jouf Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
MENA_chica wrote:
I work at a university in Riyadh, and arrived 2 months ago with EdEx. I've had no complaints, thus far.
....

There seems to be a lot of "bandwagonist" comments labelling EdEx as a sketchy company etc., so be mindful that while there is a lot of information on this and other sites, there's also quite a lot of hearsay, as well as outdated information.

Just because your personal experience with EdEx differs from others doesn't make their opinions hearsay or outdated information. There are teachers who continue to have issues with the company; their experiences should not be discounted. EdEx's sketchiness comes from the company's inconsistencies and cheesy practices---they're a mixed bag.


Nomad Soul, please do not put words into my mouth. When I speak of hearsay, I'm speaking of the second and third-hand information about "a friend who worked for EdEx" and "someone I know who's working there" citations. When I speak of outdated information, it is exactly that: personal experience that's half a decade old, lambasting a company that is ever-evolving. Someone having a different opinion or experience from me is by no means what I was referring to. Frankly speaking, the vast majority of persons continuing to muddy EdEx's name on this forum has not, by their own admission, had any direct or recent dealings with the actual Saudi company. I've spoken to countless teachers in Saudi Arabia, who've said that the stuck record regarding "sketchy" contractors in Saudi Arabia on this forum, almost succeeded in deterring them from taking up positions with the various companies. All I'm saying, as someone who is actually currently employed by Education Experts, in my IMHO, it's really not that bad working for EdEx, and by extension, contractors such as ICEAT and SBC (the latter 2 from what I've seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears at ground zero).
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1Sapphire1



Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently worked for EdEx in both Al Jouf (Sakaka) and Al Khobar. I think overall Khobar is better. You are close to the sea and can go to Bahrain on the weekends. They put us in the Tulip Inn which was ok. There are lots of things within walking distance. This includes fast food, a good book store, 2 great grocery stores, restaurants, places to buy DVDs etc. In Sakaka the housing was really bad but it is easy to find a new place and because it is so cheap there you can pocket a lot of the housing allowance. Sakaka is in the middle of nowhere and the grocery stores were little shops with not much selection. The students in Sakaka were much better but the teaching conditions were a bit primative. The food at the school (for lunch) was very poor and there wasn't much within walking distance except a Hungrey Bunny. I'm not sure what contracts EdEx has in Dammam now but when I was there they had three different locations. The food was the best at the University of Dammam.
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