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skarp



Joined: 30 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:09 am    Post subject: Getting a job in Tokyo Reply with quote

Ok - sorry if this is an old question.

I'm in Tokyo looking for my first teaching job in Japan. I have heaps of EFL experience and am fully qualified.

I've been through the Japan Times classifieds and looked on the various websites - Ohayo Sensei, Gaijinpot and ELTNEWS.

What else would people recommend?

The job needs to be in/near Tokyo and has to provide visa sponsorship and accomodation assistance.

Cheers

Skarp
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not an old question but this is incredible.

We gave you advice about leaving Korea. We gave you advice about coming to Japan. We gave you advice about getting through the airport.

Now you want advice about getting a job!

Skarp... you're amazing Very Happy

FWIW, I never worked in Tokyo so cannot help you. Let's hope others can because you must be pouring money down the toilet until you get work...
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guest of Japan



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't give you any specific advice. Sorry. I'm sure someone told you that summer is the worst time to hunt for a job in Japan, right? We're coming up on Obon vacation.
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skarp



Joined: 30 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - A lot of people did give me advice.

Thanks to them.

And yes - summer is worse for some jobs. Universities, High schools....

But eikaiwa have no special 'season', or do they? Obon is a factor of course. I knew about that.

And I'm comfortable with my decision to come in the summer. It was the right time for me to do it. Not an esy one and in some ways forced by regrettable circumstances that are no-one elses business. A case of if I were you I wouldn't start from here.

So - has anybody actually got any useful advice? Or is the heat just getting to everyone?


This forum is partly for people to ask for advice - so no apologies for doing just that. nobody is forced to reply. So if you don't want to respond positively just keep quiet. Is that too much to ask?

My philosophy is to ask the stupid questions others are too chicken to ask.

So - am I missing something? Is there a major source of job vancancies that I'm ignorant of?

PM me if you'd rather it was kept fairly secret. I do appreciate the help given me by others on this board and will repay in kind if I am ever able. if not someone else will pay them back for their generosity.

You reap what you sow in life. There seems to be a spate of negativity on this board just lately. What's the point?

Skarp
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shmooj, you come across as an arrogant *beep* in some of your posts, one thats pissed off at the world. Whats your problem? If you can't help someone keep your mouth shut.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And yes - summer is worse for some jobs. Universities, High schools....

But eikaiwa have no special 'season', or do they? Obon is a factor of course. I knew about that.


Welcome to Japan. Yes, some eikaiwas have a special season. They shut down for Obon as part of that "season". Some also hire during the same period as high schools.

I find it hard to imagine that you have scoured all of those sites for ads and come up with nothing. Are you saying that nothing meets your requirements, or that nobody has responsed to your inquiries?

If it's the former, you are probably seeing the result of poor hiring season and will just have to live with it.
If it's the latter, then you might need to fix your resume. What worked for you in Korea may not work in Japan.

As for the "negativity" on this board lately, I think you might have seen the results of very frustrated veterans who try their best to respond to people who just won't take their answers for gospel, or that don't get enough information from the OP to give a good answer.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skarp, besides looking for jobs online or in newspapers, what else are you doing to find a job? Advertised jobs are usually the worst way to find a job, if you're already in-country. I would say hit the pavement with your resume, set up appointments with the DOS and you should get some bites. Try and hang out with other teachers at gaijin houses, net cafes, Starbucks, bars etc. and see if they know of any openings.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing, how are you dressed? If you're not clean cut, clean shaven and in a white shirt and tie, forget about getting hired.

Don't say things like teaching in Korea is just like Japan. You may think that, but the Japanese often feel superior to the Koreans.

Be patient, jobs don't fall on your lap in Japan as easily as in Korea. It took me 2 days to get a job in Seoul and within a month, I had about 7 or 8 p/t jobs (that was a long time ago though).
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skarp Bro,

Hang in there mate. I don't envy you having to look for work right now in Tokyo.

I can offer you about 20 substitution hours in Saitama starting in August. You will have found something by then but if you want it let me know. It's twice a week, 4 hours on tuesday from 4 p.m. and 2 on thursday from 5 p.m. at 47 an hour.

As far as landing a job and sponsor you will have to decide between the entry level positions. I believe you can choose: A) language school
B) kindergarten
C) dispatching company

I have done them all and have friends doing them all now. If you are interested in C I know of Sagan Speak and Tokyo Language Institute.
I don't know the numbers off hand but I have worked for both and if you call TLI ask for Chris. Tell him you'd like to arrange an interview. Do the same at Sagan, it is run by two brothers Graham and Steven. Ask for Graham and ask for an interview.

I have seen piles of resumes come in and few people coming into the office. If you send a resume somewhere, get on the phone and try to establish some type of rapport with someone. Then, get in there and let them see you. What I mean is hit the pavement and don't sit back and expect to fax a resume and get a call.

When I first called TLI they were so excited about me just from my telephone manners. Remember there are a lot of kooks out for the same jobs. They aren't all kooks but many are. If you're not you shouldn't have any trouble.

It is summer vacation soon and there will be heaps of sub work which most always turns into a job.



Good luck, mate.
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shmooj



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canuck2112 wrote:
Shmooj, you come across as an arrogant *beep* in some of your posts, one thats pissed off at the world. Whats your problem? If you can't help someone keep your mouth shut.

Touche man touche Laughing

Maybe we should go camping or something
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skarp



Joined: 30 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

That's more like it.

I have had bites. I have been offered part time work.

I have applied for about 5-6 positions that would certainly do.

So - I think I'm OK on the cv and appearance front.

But it doesn't feel like enough.

I was unsure about walking in cold to a place and I still am. I'd rather ring up and arrange a meeting.

However, many places will drag you in and then offer you just a few hours a week. No use as I'm still on a sightseeing visa.


But I'll bear it all in mind.

Sometimes I try to be brief in my OPs. And so some info is lacking. Sorry if this causes confusion and cross purposes but I think we've got it sorted out now.

Thanls again everyone.

Substitution work is a kind offer but no use for visa reasons...

Cheers

Skarp
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skarp,

All the best, mate.


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lajzar



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
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Location: Saitama-ken, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your nationality, experience, and qualifications? I know my present employer is recruiting, but due to "Britishness" being a selling point, only UK citizens need apply.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Don't need a visa to take over mate and my classes at Pioneer.


In case you haven't heard in your 15 years in Japan, Sweetsee, working without a proper visa is illegal.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski,


I was only trying to lend a stranger a helping hand and cover my classes, which I don't even have to do, which is more than I can say for everybody else.

Do you really think Skarp would take me up on it or anyone for that matter?

BTW, how's the vacation going. Are you high above the Pacific at this moment?



Have a good one,
Sweetsee


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