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Scrabble King
Joined: 25 Dec 2014 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:16 am Post subject: IQ Tests To Be A New China Foreign Teacher Requirement ? |
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I clipped this from a Shanghai Expat forum. Are China expat teachers really this stupid?
"After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English, the Ministry of Education announced they are considering a new IQ Test for all foreign teachers.
They even drafted a 3 part test and gave it to 2,000 volunteer expat volunteer teachers in Beijing and Shanghai and the results were shocking. Only 32% of the participants passed with a score of 80% or better. Another 41% passed with a score of 70% - 79%.
At present more than 28,000 foreign teachers are employed at 2,317 Chinese, schools, universities, kindergartens, and learning centers. It was recently discovered through a teacher survey that more than half of China's expat teachers never previously taught any subject to any student before arriving in China. Current requirements only call for a bachelor degree in any subject and fluent oral English.
With more than 28% of recent Chinese graduates unable to find work or speak more than basic English, this new IQ test may become a reality sooner than later. Yet one more hoop of many that China expats will have to jump through is not sitting well with most resident foreigners. A sample of the test can be taken at "After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English, the Ministry of Education announced they are considering a new IQ Test for all foreign teachers.
They even drafted a 3 part test and gave it to 2,000 volunteer expat volunteer teachers in Beijing and Shanghai and the results were shocking. Only 32% of the participants passed with a score of 80% or better. Another 41% passed with a score of 70% - 79%.
At present more than 28,000 foreign teachers are employed at 2,317 Chinese, schools, universities, kindergartens, and learning centers. It was recently discovered through a teacher survey that more than half of China's expat teachers never previously taught any subject to any student before arriving in China. Current requirements only call for a bachelor degree in any subject and fluent oral English.
With more than 28% of recent Chinese graduates unable to find work or speak more than basic English, this new IQ test may become a reality sooner than later. Yet one more hoop of many that China expats will have to jump through is not sitting well with most resident foreigners. A sample of the test can be taken at http://scam-detector.com/forums/forum/employment-scams/259-do-china-foreign-teachers-really-now-require-an-iq-test-yes"
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Listerine

Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Posts: 340
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:26 am Post subject: Re: IQ Tests To Be A New China Foreign Teacher Requirment ? |
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| Scrabble King wrote: |
| the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors |
"IQ Tests To Be A New China Foreign Teacher Requirment ?"
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Hope that helps. |
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Listerine

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Last edited by Scrabble King on Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:28 am; edited 1 time in total |
you're welcome!!  |
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BleedingBlue
Joined: 22 Oct 2014 Posts: 87
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Does I.Q. encompass the inability to proofread or, in other words, needlessly repeat information? I thought so. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| "After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English..." |
Hmm... Email (and texting) are never good indications of one's ability to use language correctly. Plus, that link the OP provided goes to a scam site with even more scam links and not to sample of the test. What a scam.
Seriously, instead of a test for assessing intelligence, it would make more sense to require an English language usage and proficiency test. Better still, simply bump up the teacher requirements to a valid TEFL cert, degree, official academic transcripts, and at least one year of teaching experience. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Literacy. Not IQ.
Yes, a TEFL course should weed out the weakly-literate. I've had to break a few aspiring hearts on this myself for egregious, repeated, fossilized errors. |
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teachfortoday
Joined: 21 Jan 2011 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:36 am Post subject: |
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"Scrabble King" is an obvious spammer and spreader of false information.
Why is he-she still here ? |
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Scrabble King
Joined: 25 Dec 2014 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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"nomad soul"]
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| Seriously, instead of a test for assessing intelligence, it would make more sense to require an English language usage and proficiency test. Better still, simply bump up the teacher requirements to a valid TEFL cert, degree, official academic transcripts, and at least one year of teaching experience. |
Agreed. But they already now require 2 years of previous teaching experience and people just use fabricated reference letters. |
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asiannationmc
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Does I.Q. encompass the inability to proofread or, in other words, needlessly repeat information? |
Yes, in fact the IQ test encourages it. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Scrabble King wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| Seriously, instead of a test for assessing intelligence, it would make more sense to require an English language usage and proficiency test. Better still, simply bump up the teacher requirements to a valid TEFL cert, degree, official academic transcripts, and at least one year of teaching experience. |
Agreed. But they already now require 2 years of previous teaching experience and people just use fabricated reference letters. |
Fake reference letters are just one component. I suspect the cover letters and CVs of those semi-literate, careless teachers were never fully scrutinized for errors from the start.
As for falsifying documents, there's a way to determine teaching experience. The applicant should be ready to do a short demo lesson or at least explain the steps or process on how they would teach XYZ concept. Plus, it's quite obvious interviewers aren't asking the right questions; open-ended situational/behavioral prompts specific to aspects of TEFL can definitely weed out the bad eggs early on.
You don't see these types of issues posted on other country forums. It's also one of the reasons many employers in the Middle East, for example, aren't keen on seeing teaching experience in China on an applicant's CV. |
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Simon in Suzhou
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 404 Location: GZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:01 am Post subject: |
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How I know this story is BS:
Chinese mothers complained about foreign teachers' English. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAH |
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SH_Panda

Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 455
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:04 am Post subject: |
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That's it for me.
This forum has been ruined by this cretin.
Goodbye all. |
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Lack
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 252
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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"After dozens of Chinese mothers complained that the expat teachers of their children could not write a single email without slang, spelling errors, and erratic grammar in their own native tongue of English, the Ministry of Education announced they are considering a new IQ Test for all foreign teachers.
They even drafted a 3 part test and gave it to 2,000 volunteer expat volunteer teachers in Beijing and Shanghai and the results were shocking. Only 32% of the participants passed with a score of 80% or better. Another 41% passed with a score of 70% - 79%. |
Which is not how actual IQ tests work. Dead giveaway right here. |
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likwid_777

Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| Spelling, grammar and punctuation I can handle. If an IQ test is introduced, I will hide my pet turkey under my shirt and let him do it for me haha. |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 656 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| SH_Panda wrote: |
That's it for me.
This forum has been ruined by this cretin.
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2nd that |
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