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elliot_spencer
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 495
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: why can't I find work? |
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Hi everyone. I am a 30 year old British teacher. I have 7 years teaching experience, I have a BA(hons) in Teaching English, Celta grade B and a Delta, I am also a Cambridge ESOL speaking examiner and am also an IELTS examiner . I have been applying to almost every job in Japan for the past 3 years and I have not been able to find anything... am I too qualified/old? |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: |
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No, but there are too many teachers here.
You just need to look at different sites for work, like Craigslist.
Although, most jobs listed are not good.
You might have to work for dispatch agencies, and they prefer part-timers so they do not have to pay for pensions and health insurance.
I probably will leave next year.
I think once you get to 40 then age can be an issue.
Seriously, consider China. |
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Mr. Leafy

Joined: 24 Apr 2012 Posts: 246 Location: North of the Wall
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Where are you applying from? I see your past posts have been in various country forums, including Turkey and Czech, so it's hard to tell.
Some countries are more willing than others to hire from abroad, Japan is one that prefers to hire 'already in the country' (except for language mills, which I suspect you are not going for). If you're not in Japan, it's going to be harder. |
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timothypfox
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 492
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:45 am Post subject: |
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The CELTA / DELTA qualifications are more highly regarded in Europe than in Japan. An MA in TESOL is more of an industry standard here for more than an entry level job here.
But, having said that I think you should be able to acquire entry level language school type of work or ALT type of work.
While Mitsui is correct in that there are many teachers here, if I recall correctly Mitsui focuses on university work which is a lost cause and temporary adjunct city pretty much unless you are well-published and fluent in Japanese or have great connections.
There are tenure type jobs available at private high schools although they generally require public school experience or public school teaching qualifications from your own country - and very often an MA. This is the route I took.
Private high schools actually may prefer a job candidate in their 40s because they want an employee they can trust with the kids, and someone who may consider staying long term.
Have you done anything Japan related such as teacher Japanese students or at least tutored them? Have you taken any Japanese lessons to at least demonstrate to an employer your interest in Japanese culture? Any Japanese hobbies such as kendo (NOT MANGA!)?
What sites and companies have you been looking at? What kind of jobs are you interested in? What do you like about Japan? |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:51 am Post subject: Re: why can't I find work? |
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elliot_spencer wrote: |
Hi everyone. I am a 30 year old British teacher. I have 7 years teaching experience, I have a BA(hons) in Teaching English, Celta grade B and a Delta, I am also a Cambridge ESOL speaking examiner and am also an IELTS examiner . I have been applying to almost every job in Japan for the past 3 years and I have not been able to find anything... am I too qualified/old? |
You're not too old at all, and whether you are too qualified or not depends on what kinds of jobs you're applying for. If you are applying for university jobs, you'll have no chance without at least an MA in TESOL/AL, and possibly will need at least an intermediate level of Japanese ability and academic publications.
Private HS jobs might be a good fit for you, but those are often filled via word of mouth and connections, and private high schools often want people with some experience in Japan.
You'd probably be best off applying for entry-level jobs (eikaiwa and ALT), if you aren't already, and then networking once you get to Japan so that you can find a better job later (e.g., at a private high school).
If you are applying for entry-level jobs, many places might not know what a DELTA is, and the examining experience probably won't mean much to them (I don't believe the Cambridge tests are used much in Japan, and IELTS is usually to qualify for academic study abroad, which very few Japanese do). For advancement at work, TOEIC seems to be much more popular in Japan.
My point is that some employers might see you as someone with a relevant BA, a few years of experience in some other country, and a certificate, who is not currently in Japan and would require them to sponsor your visa.
You might be losing out to people already in Japan who have a work visa, and can start working quickly.
On your CV, you might have to make it more clear to Japanese employers exactly what your qualifications mean.
You seem to be in a bit of limbo in that your qualifications are beyond entry-level, but they aren't the qualifications that Japanese employers want for jobs beyond entry level. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Without networking you have to take what you can get.
I will go back to teaching at a private high school.
Without my spouse it would not have been possible to get the job.
Frankly the networking of a Japanese spouse trumps everything.
Publications are needed for university work and I can't put them on my resume until accepted for publication.
I am stuck in the peer review purgatory.
Anyway, I got certified in the US (Arizona) for grades 7-12 and will continue the certification process.
People have to keep making their resume look better since there is a lot of competition. |
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timothypfox
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 492
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:35 am Post subject: |
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I got my private high school job through a rare listing on ESL cafe. It is possible. But, Ohayo Sensei is a better bet for jobs I think... |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:16 am Post subject: |
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IELTS is not common. There are classes at the British Council and some other places.
With no MA, if you were a qualified teacher in the UK you might get work,
especially with IB experience. |
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