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LPKSA
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:37 am Post subject: Release Letter. To resign vs. non-renewal of contract |
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I resigned, upon successfully completing my contract with these people. I am under no obligation to renew a contract for them, to make it easier for them to retain teachers. None of this matters, except for when I was handed my release letter, I noticed the reason they wrote for my departure.
They worded it as "contract non-renewal."
I think they did this to avoid acknowledging any lack of management on their behalf, which would pinpoint the reasons why I resigned.
What are the chances of this being corrected to state the actual reason why I left this place, and to be frank, is it even worth following through?
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nomad soul

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Your post is contradictory. Resigning your position means you terminated your current contract before its end date. Contract non-renewal refers to completion of the full contracted term; however, either you or the employer decided not to initiate a new contract. |
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LPKSA
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:04 am Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
Your post is contradictory. Resigning your position means you terminated your current contract before its end date. Contract non-renewal refers to completion of the full contracted term; however, either you or the employer decided not to initiate a new contract. |
I submitted in writing that I no longer wished to work for this company, and that my final date would be the end of my current contract. Is that not the same as submitting a letter of resignation? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Release Letter. To resign vs. non-renewal of contract |
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LPKSA wrote: |
They worded it as "contract non-renewal." |
I'd say that it is accurate. Either party can choose to "non-renew" and in this case you were the one who made that choice. So, why would they change it?
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nomad soul

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto that. You need to quit calling your situation a resignation since you decided not to renew upon contract end. There's also no reason to fuss over getting your release letter "corrected" because it's not in error. Moreover, the employer is not obligated to acknowledge in writing, their "lack of management on their behalf," which you also say pinpoints the reasons why you're not returning. That's your opinion, not theirs and it's not a realistic expectation.
In my case, I didn't email any advance notice that I wasn't going to renew my contract. The teachers were informed that we had up until a certain date to let HR know if we were interested in signing a new contract for the upcoming academic year. When that day hit, I stopped by the HR office and confirmed that I would not be returning. Done.
However, unlike you, I left on very good terms. I didn't get a release letter nor a no objection certificate (NOC)/letter of no objection (LONO). (These documents are no longer required anyway.) Of course, I had no intention of returning to KSA, so it was a nonissue. I only received an official, stamped employment certificate, signed by both the Dean and Vice Dean. It indicates my title and employment begin and end dates, and includes the following: "X University would like to take this opportunity to thank (my name) for her valuable contributions and wish all the best in her future endeavor."
Anyway, since you're still at that job, you should definitely follow up to ensure you'll be given an employment certificate near the end of your contract. As for interview questions about why you left, you'll have to figure out how to diplomatically respond. |
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LPKSA
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:10 am Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
However, unlike you, I left on very good terms. I didn't get a release letter nor a no objection certificate (NOC)/letter of no objection (LONO). (These documents are no longer required anyway.) Of course, I had no intention of returning to KSA, so it was a nonissue. I only received an official, stamped employment certificate, signed by both the Dean and Vice Dean. It indicates my title and employment begin and end dates, and includes the following: "X University would like to take this opportunity to thank (my name) for her valuable contributions and wish all the best in her future endeavor."
Anyway, since you're still at that job, you should definitely follow up to ensure you'll be given an employment certificate near the end of your contract. As for interview questions about why you left, you'll have to figure out how to diplomatically respond. |
Wow...
Well.. had you read my original post, you'd have noticed that I was given an employment certificate... Where did I mention anything about leaving on bad terms? Thanks for your advice. |
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: Resigned to the fact |
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You need to quit calling your situation a resignation since you decided not to renew upon contract end. |
Not at all. My employer in Oman required three months' notice of leaving before or at the end of a contract, and I was obliged to sign a form stating my intention whether to renew or not. As a gratuity was paid shortly after commencing each new contract, leaving at the end of the old contract without giving notice would have resulted in loss of the gratuity. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Are we debating semantics here? Is giving notice to "not renew" a resignation? I think it is a matter of opinion...
I would normally use the term 'resignation' to mean ending the contract early and leaving before its end.
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grahamb

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:17 pm Post subject: Resignation |
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There's the rub, VS: what goes on in the Middle East isn't normal.  |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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grahamb wrote: |
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You need to quit calling your situation a resignation since you decided not to renew upon contract end. |
Not at all. My employer in Oman required three months' notice of leaving before or at the end of a contract, and I was obliged to sign a form stating my intention whether to renew or not. As a gratuity was paid shortly after commencing each new contract, leaving at the end of the old contract without giving notice would have resulted in loss of the gratuity. |
Sure, you're basically describing a situation where you gave notice to either 1) terminate your contract before its end date (i.e., resign); or 2) indicate your intent to renew or not once your current contract ends. However, informing your employer that you're "resigning" your position effective the contract end date makes no sense. In other words, how can you quit a situation effective the day it ends anyway. This is why non-renewal is the appropriate term. |
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grahamb

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:15 pm Post subject: Resigned to one's fate |
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However, informing your employer that you're "resigning" your position effective the contract end date makes no sense. In other words, how can you quit a situation effective the day it ends anyway. |
Quite, but that's what teachers are required to do. It's the military; I dare say it makes sense to them. I just signed on the line. |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: Resigned to one's fate |
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grahamb wrote: |
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However, informing your employer that you're "resigning" your position effective the contract end date makes no sense. In other words, how can you quit a situation effective the day it ends anyway. |
Quite, but that's what teachers are required to do. It's the military; I dare say it makes sense to them. I just signed on the line. |
This is simply a case of understanding and using the appropriate employment terminology. Besides, who's to say how prevalent this is; my contract terms and conditions as well as employment processes haven't been off in the Mid East countries I've worked in.
Anyway, it's a nonissue unless the employer's poor choice of terminology negatively impacts the departing employee's ability to land a new job. |
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grahamb

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:07 am Post subject: Resign |
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I dare say the clerks who prepared the original employment contract and related documents - probably British military personnel - regarded their choice of terminology as appropriate.
Incidentally, the form I mentioned previously refers to an extension, as opposed to renewal of the contract, although I never heard the former term used in conversation.
Interestingly, the technical vocabulary I taught differentiated between replace and refit. Whereas a reader in a public library is requested to replace a book on a shelf after reading it, an aircraft technician is required to refit a component. If a component is replaced, a new component is installed in place of an old one. |
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