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Best Firms to Work for in Saudi?
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ebooktrial0001



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Best Firms to Work for in Saudi? Reply with quote

Hi Everyone,

Someone new to Saudi PM'd me and asked about the best jobs in Saudi. Even though I only spent a year there, I answered "Aramco" since they had the best housing, benefits, etc.

But, even Aramco has it's share of problems. There is no perfect job anywhere; but, I'm guessing Saudi it's guaranteed to have some serious problems or other.

What do you guys think from your experience?
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the best jobs are on the east coast like KFUPM, which is owned by Aramco.

It really depends on the person and what you need.

KAU has the least work for the most pay.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatcher wrote:
I would say the best jobs are on the east coast like KFUPM, which is owned by Aramco.


it is? Do tell...
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they're both owned by the same boss: the Saudi government. Very Happy

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John
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Best Firms to Work for in Saudi? Reply with quote

ebooktrial0001 wrote:
Someone new to Saudi PM'd me and asked about the best jobs in Saudi.

Frankly, the better jobs pretty much go to teachers with top qualifications (e.g., relevant MA and years of verified TEFL experience) with recruiting generally done each March at TESOL Arabia's job fair.

That's the best response to that question.
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KAU hires year round and if you can handle being alone for extended periods of time it is ok.

No serious teacher goes to Saudi. Its M or 3M - money or money, Mecca and Medina.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Hatcher,

Strange - I knew a good numer of "serious teachers" there.


Maybe you ran with the wrong crowd - but you went there, right? Does that mean you're not a serious teacher? Very Happy

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John
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water rat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.seriousteachers.com/
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:44 am    Post subject: You cannot be serious! Reply with quote

In my day a serious teacher was one who didn't laugh or even smile.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"KFUPM is owned by ARAMCO". Wow ! Are we supposed to take advice from this poorly-informed Frank ?
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was there and no, I was not a serious teacher. And I left.

I have traveled over 60 countries and that place is the most difficult place I have ever been.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatcher wrote:


I have traveled over 60 countries and that place is the most difficult place I have ever been.


Ah the timelessness of Saudi Arabia, you could say that both poetically and literally Laughing Think of all the things that make Saudi Arabia difficult, all of them already discussed here before.
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hesitate to write this because I know several apologists will come after me.

But one thing I struggle with is the way I should treat Saudis in my country.

How do Saudis treat non-Saudis? Many DDD workers dont get paid. When I meet them at home, I often want to say, Ill treat you the way I was treated there...

Most tell me they dont know any better.
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatcher wrote:
I was there and no, I was not a serious teacher.
I spent several years making a serious effort to seriously improve the way we do things here at XXX, then I realized I was seriously deluded. I am looking forward to leaving XXX forever this summer and not taking myself too seriously ever again.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The male Saudi stepping out of a car to attend English classes is no different than the Male Saudi that would hop off of a camel to look you over. There hasn't been any educational intervention regarding moral imperatives and personal rights between those days and now.
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