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The Positive Side of Russia
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject: Souvenirs Reply with quote

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Where else could you find such treasures?


Why, in Cuba, of course. Apart from cosmonauts, that is. Venceremos!
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I suppose. But all made in China these days. Fraternal countries all.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- people here who don't speak English can still figure out generally what non-Russian speakers are trying to say. Basic context clues are used logically. Not something to be taken for granted, especially in other parts of the world.
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water rat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
- people here who don't speak English can still figure out generally what non-Russian speakers are trying to say. Basic context clues are used logically. Not something to be taken for granted, especially in other parts of the world.
But this is true anywhere, Sasha. It's not confined to the Russians. I know fewer Chinese words than I have fingers and toes, but when the birdseed man in the park is talking to me, he may be saying, "Listen, pal, you're an English teacher. What's the difference between, 'made of' and 'made from'?" or he may be saying, "Get your goddam dog away from my goddam pigeons!" I can guess correctly which it is, and I haven't a drop of Russian blood in my body.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But this is true anywhere, Sasha.


No, water rat. It's not true anywhere, I can assure you. Try it on in France, for example...
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never said it was confined to Russians. Just that it is a positive aspect to living here. I wouldn't say literature and opera is uniquely Russian either. But their canon is another plus to living here. For me anyway.

While you may be able to use context clues on China to great effect, remember you are an English teacher. That's part of what we do. It is possible that many of your own family, with an equal lack of Russian blood, might not figure out what your Chinese chap is saying.

Russians are generally quite good at this. As Spiral noted, the French can't be bothered. In my time in Turkey and travelling around the region, I experienced many Fawlty Towers situations trying to extract a menu from waiters. This despite the fact 'menu' is a French loan word. No amount or changing the pronunciation of this word helped. If it wasn't perfect pron, there was no comprehension. The notion that a customer just walking into a restaurant or cafe would probably be asking for a menu wasn't something that the locals could be depended on to figure out. Quite tiresome.

But not in Russia, at least. Other issues abound, but not that, thankfully.

If you've always assumed that logical context clues are universally acted upon, then you've some surprises in store for you in your further travels : )
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Phillip Schofield



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always have issues ordering Long Island Ice Teas.
If I say it in my standard accent, they have no idea what I'm asking for. If I try and say it in as Russian a way as I can, they are even more perplexed.
Usually I just have to resort to pointing at it in a menu.

But this only really happens in places which don't deal with many foreigners.

I really don't know how else to say a word which is entirely English.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsk tsk, then you should just be ordering vodka instead - much easier for all concerned : )
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Phillip Schofield



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favourite aspects of Russia (although this isn't limited to Russia) is putting my vodka out on the balcony during winter. Who needs a fridge when it's colder outside? It's closer to hand and it's certainly enjoyable to sit out on the balcony and drink a nice cold shot of vodka whilst the snow falls around you.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just don't do it with beer...
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