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Hatcher
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I say 5 things make a good teacher in China, which is close to KOrea...
1. Be handsome
2. Be sexy
3. A little charm
4. Some teaching skill as they want something for their money...
5. a big stick... some of them want that |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China
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I have watched about a dozen newbies walk off the job after about the first month because they have realized that "just ask them about their hobbies" is not something they can do for an entire semester
This is sad, because with a bit more direction and support these people could have developed into effective teachers, or at least completed their contracts.
But, how much of this 'job related' forum relates to the job we do in the classroom? Not much.
Most of the postings are about applying and getting jobs and the perks.
A young person considering China would believe that the classroom part was non-existent or can be handled on the hoof.
In our home countries would we accept positions with only the barest idea of what is entailed? Nope.
The Chinese set such low expectations and provide little resources that it is not only the teachers who are at fault.
Try an OP on a classroom-related topic and see what interest there is.[/b] |
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Lack
Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I have watched about a dozen newbies walk off the job after about the first month because they have realized that "just ask them about their hobbies" is not something they can do for an entire semester
This is sad, because with a bit more direction and support these people could have developed into effective teachers, or at least completed their contracts.
But, how much of this 'job related' forum relates to the job we do in the classroom? Not much.
Most of the postings are about applying and getting jobs and the perks.
A young person considering China would believe that the classroom part was non-existent or can be handled on the hoof.
In our home countries would we accept positions with only the barest idea of what is entailed? Nope.
The Chinese set such low expectations and provide little resources that it is not only the teachers who are at fault.
Try an OP on a classroom-related topic and see what interest there is.[/b] |
That is a very good point. People are so accustomed to EFL jobs being about having a white face and a pulse that even now many newbs don't even consider that the teaching part is really about teaching. It may be starting to change now (or at least in major cities) but will take a while yet. Many people are not good at teaching but it is a learn-able skill. But most who get into TEFL jobs are not looking to improve their skills, so it is possible to go years "teaching" and still not know how to teach. And since China has usually had low standards, it tends to self-reinforce... |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Lack wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I have watched about a dozen newbies walk off the job after about the first month because they have realized that "just ask them about their hobbies" is not something they can do for an entire semester
This is sad, because with a bit more direction and support these people could have developed into effective teachers, or at least completed their contracts.
But, how much of this 'job related' forum relates to the job we do in the classroom? Not much.
Most of the postings are about applying and getting jobs and the perks.
A young person considering China would believe that the classroom part was non-existent or can be handled on the hoof.
In our home countries would we accept positions with only the barest idea of what is entailed? Nope.
The Chinese set such low expectations and provide little resources that it is not only the teachers who are at fault.
Try an OP on a classroom-related topic and see what interest there is.[/b] |
That is a very good point. People are so accustomed to EFL jobs being about having a white face and a pulse that even now many newbs don't even consider that the teaching part is really about teaching. It may be starting to change now (or at least in major cities) but will take a while yet. Many people are not good at teaching but it is a learn-able skill. But most who get into TEFL jobs are not looking to improve their skills, so it is possible to go years "teaching" and still not know how to teach. And since China has usually had low standards, it tends to self-reinforce... |
Someone (it may have been Bud P) observed that Chinese grads returning from Western Unis may see the jobs FTs do as their right.
I asked a former student yesterday on Skype if she agreed that returning Chinese grads would see Oral English as at least a stop gap?
She said there was no evidence that she could see, but that there were way too many returning grads particularly with the economic downturn. |
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JellyRoll
Joined: 20 Dec 2014
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:28 pm Post subject: success? |
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Learned this LONG ago whilst working in Saudi/UAE for 11 years:
1. Buy a really BIG shi*t bucket and a really SMALL money bucket.
2. Punch a massive hole in the sh*t bucket. |
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mw182006
Joined: 10 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:10 am Post subject: Re: success? |
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| JellyRoll wrote: |
Learned this LONG ago whilst working in Saudi/UAE for 11 years:
1. Buy a really BIG shi*t bucket and a really SMALL money bucket.
2. Punch a massive hole in the sh*t bucket. |
And then sh1t in your money bucket? I don't get it. If my uni cared about looks then they'd have hired a lot more females...the student body is predominantly male where I am. |
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