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parnett
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Most of the teachers' complaints at Maple Leaf centered around the number of hours they worked for the pay received. Prior to socializing with these people, I had heard that instructors at Maple Leaf made more than 20,000 rmb/month. I was told that wasn't true. Only teachers with PhDs, double M.A. etc. were in that category. Everyone else was making less than what I make at Meiga.
Another complaint was the fact they had to live on campus in less than satisfactory flats. Another teacher carped about the fact they weren't abiding to the contract terms when it came to flight reimbursement.
One positive aspect of my school is the small number of students per class. We only have nine 12th graders (divided into 2 classes) and nineteen 11th graders (divided into 2 classes). I have heard that the new 10th grade class will be comprised of more than 60 students. Our marketing efforts must be working. |
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parnett
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:16 am Post subject: |
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For anyone interested in a job, the contact info is as follows:
Phone: 18502707586 (Ask for Maxine)
Skype: maxine.huang97
email: [email protected] (Address it to Maxine) |
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thechangling
Joined: 11 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:24 am Post subject: |
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| Through a recruiter i was just offered 9000 RMB per month to teach at this outfit which makes me suspicious as within the 2 threads about this school I've seen 6000 RMB and 13,000 RMB offered and now you can add 9000 RMB to that too. |
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Hatcher
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Lots of AP and British levels schools have jobs in the 20 000 range. |
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thechangling
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Hatcher, is that 20,000 RMB for certified teachers (with a home country teaching certificate) only?
I've since been told that 9000 RMB is for just teaching basic english language and not a subject such as math. |
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Hatcher
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Sometimes it is for certs... I make 22000 and am not cert but dont teach ESL. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| parnett wrote: |
You sent me one message, Bura, and I promptly replied. Nowhere in your message were there any questions on curriculum and/ or track records. I suggest you look at your original mail.
I rarely start a new thread here at Dave's for a couple of reasons:
- The most simple thread will be parsed, analysed and then completely taken out of text. In my initial thread, I wrote that there were jobs available at my school. That's it. If you want the contact info, I will be back at school on Wednesday and will gladly give you the Head of the Department's email address so you can contact her about curriculum, track records, marketing etc. I am not a recruiter, nor will I be compensated for finding new teachers.
- Each time I post a new thread, after about three replies, someone will make a completely unrelated remark resulting in all further responses being completely off-topic.
If you are interested in the job, then p.m. me. If you are not, then please add your two cents to someone else's thread. |
this. |
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buravirgil
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Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Non Sequitur,
I don't know why you're quoting parnett's comments to me to substantiate a ^this^ "upvote", except that it's somewhat eponysterical.
I addressed in the thread (as best I could) that I had not received a reply to parnett's solicitation of private message inquiries. And though I have no reason to doubt parnett's claim they promptly replied, I know without a doubt that I never received one, and that I was forced to deal with parnett posting my private message that contained some personal information.
The Cafe is a public board and many come to it for that reason: a wide audience. But are dismayed when responses are not to their liking or directive? I think it's naive to have that expectation.
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:31 am Post subject: |
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There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
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Alien abductee
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
You would think so, but on this forum you have to expect a certain level of arrogance. If someone posts they're looking for staff then let potential teachers look at the contract and decide for themselves if it's a good offer or not. We're not all a bunch of freaking idiots that need mom and dad looking out for us. Oops, I just upvoted you. and Parnett. |
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buravirgil
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
I don't believe we are reading the thread the same way. parnett solicited private inquiries and I did that, but I never received a response. From my point of view, both my private message and my public questions went ignored.
I would learn parnett believed that I had ignored their private message response, and their response was, "Ok, I'll just post what was sent."
Not cool, really. But there you go. A system of private messages on a public board didn't serve its intended function/convenience. |
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Lack
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
You would think so, but on this forum you have to expect a certain level of arrogance. If someone posts they're looking for staff then let potential teachers look at the contract and decide for themselves if it's a good offer or not. We're not all a bunch of freaking idiots that need mom and dad looking out for us. Oops, I just upvoted you. and Parnett. |
This, this, and more this.
Everything about approaching it this ways screams "bait and switch" or some other tactic equally or more nefarious...
If the job pays that well and doesn't suck, people will come to you. No need to go trawling forums for suckers...
Though it can certainly get worse than this too. There's a New Oriental in Wuhan, and they offers contracts for 7000 quai a month...with a contract full of potential fines and other BS for whatever sucker is foolish enough to sign. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
You would think so, but on this forum you have to expect a certain level of arrogance. If someone posts they're looking for staff then let potential teachers look at the contract and decide for themselves if it's a good offer or not. We're not all a bunch of freaking idiots that need mom and dad looking out for us. Oops, I just upvoted you. and Parnett. |
You don't send a contract to the world at large, but to individual applicants.
Where in the West would you see an employer do what is being suggested the Wuhan school does?
Maybe just maybe, we the applicants, may be unsuitable by virtue of some detail in their background or experience levels.
The OP mentioned a preference for females right off.
This may offend liberal equal opportunities but TIC. |
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Alien abductee
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| Alien abductee wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
You would think so, but on this forum you have to expect a certain level of arrogance. If someone posts they're looking for staff then let potential teachers look at the contract and decide for themselves if it's a good offer or not. We're not all a bunch of freaking idiots that need mom and dad looking out for us. Oops, I just upvoted you. and Parnett. |
You don't send a contract to the world at large, but to individual applicants.
Where in the West would you see an employer do what is being suggested the Wuhan school does?
Maybe just maybe, we the applicants, may be unsuitable by virtue of some detail in their background or experience levels.
The OP mentioned a preference for females right off.
This may offend liberal equal opportunities but TIC. |
When I wrote "let potential teachers look at the contract" I didn't mean post it on here for all to see (although people post contracts on here all the time and never seem to catch flak for it), but that the person who started this thread could send it to anyone that got in contact with him. I was actually agreeing with your previous post, and what you wrote. That someone coming on here looking for a suitable applicant should be applauded, not vilified. I don't know how that got misconstrued.
| Lack wrote: |
| Alien abductee wrote: |
| Non Sequitur wrote: |
There are threads enough for what you describe and indeed another 'off topic' forum to steam away on.
Given the heated postings about unscrupulous recruiters, I would have though a member acting as an honest broker looking for staff, would be applauded, not vilified. |
You would think so, but on this forum you have to expect a certain level of arrogance. If someone posts they're looking for staff then let potential teachers look at the contract and decide for themselves if it's a good offer or not. We're not all a bunch of freaking idiots that need mom and dad looking out for us. Oops, I just upvoted you. and Parnett. |
This, this, and more this. |
Usually when people write "this" they mean they agree with you. But then you went on and disagreed with pretty much everything I wrote. Phuck it, I'm wasting my time here this seems like as good a time as any to ditch this forum.
| Lack wrote: |
Everything about approaching it this ways screams "bait and switch" or some other tactic equally or more nefarious...
If the job pays that well and doesn't suck, people will come to you. No need to go trawling forums for suckers...
Though it can certainly get worse than this too. There's a New Oriental in Wuhan, and they offers contracts for 7000 quai a month...with a contract full of potential fines and other BS for whatever sucker is foolish enough to sign. |
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Lack
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I see how I misinterpreted it now. You appeared to be saying the opposite until I read it another way. Though Non Sequitur also misinterpreted you. Well, I don't want to be all accusatory, but your wording could use some work.
But no worries from my end. Ditch away if you wish. |
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