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scot47
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| Serious employers, including direct-hire universities, will not be very interested in someone who wants to come for only one year. |
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RiyadhAdventure
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I agree scot47.
That's why PSU seems to be quite unique, in that they are offering a one year contract. I'm guessing that as housing is provided, it might be easier logistically. |
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buravirgil
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...quite unique?  |
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veiledsentiments
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LOL... not that we are a board full of grammar/spelling/word choice police... or anything...
VS |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, this is the uniquest site on the Net. 
Regards,
John |
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RiyadhAdventure
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Thanks for the feedback buravirgil and Johnslat.
It's very kind.  |
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cultofpersonality
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I guess the one year contract is beneficial for both parties in case some sort of dissatisfaction arises.
Holidays include 60 days in the summer, Eid vacation, January (optional) and March. PSU provides transport regardless of where they put you. The working environment isn't bad and you get your own office. |
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RiyadhAdventure
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Thanks for the information cultofpersonality - it's greatly appreciated.
We'll put in an application.
All the best |
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Hatcher
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| Ask for a multiple entry visa... |
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hash
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| RiyadhAdventure wrote: |
I agree scot47.
That's why PSU seems to be quite unique, in that they are offering a one year contract. I'm guessing that as housing is provided, it might be easier logistically. |
You can always bail out after a year regardless of what your "contract" says. Employees who have not completed their contracts in the Gulf are legion.
You can always plead a "family" circumstance or issue which requires your presence back home after a year. Depending on how your contract is written, there are always alternatives to actually finishing your contract.
You can also always do a "runner". You one day (or usually night), just board a plane without telling anyone and disappear. (This also happens frequently). Any big organization in the Gulf will have at least one runner a year.
My point is you should probably not limit your job search just to employees who offer a one-year contract. (That's not dealing with Gulf realities). Another possibility is to mention off-hand that you'd prefer a one-year to an employer that is offering a 2 year contract. They might readily accept your preference.
Finally, I've put quote marks around the world "contracts" for a reason. What legal force do "Gulf" "contracts" really carry? Where are they enforceable (if anywhere) and what are the penalties? Will they really "come after you" in a court of law in the USA or Britain for bailing out? (What would be the "charge"?? Quitting a job??) Fat chance.
I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just laying out other possibilities you might want to consider and explore.
Remember, you're not dealing with a "Western" system where employment rules and regulations are usually clearly spelled out, let alone are you dealing with a "legal" system that resembles in any way whatsover a "Western" legal system. (You'll also be dealing with an educational "system" that barely has overtones of a "Western" educational system: perhaps in form. but definitely not in substance. |
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buravirgil
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| You can also always do a "runner". You one day (or usually night), just board a plane without telling anyone and disappear. (This also happens frequently). Any big organization in the Gulf will have at least one runner a year. |
Not in the KSA without an exit visa, and that is likely why Hatcher's post emphasizes the wisdom of acquiring a muliti-exit visa as soon as possible. Single and multi-exit visas are requested through your sponsor (employer). A "runner" is a common term in ESL, but its application in the Gulf's Kafala system is somewhat complicated. The KSA is the last place on earth to go without doing your homework.
The choices open to a married couple with your advanced degrees are many.
Good luck. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Newbies to KSA sometimes wait for the first vacation and then leave, never to be seen again. |
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nomad soul
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| Better yet, stick with direct-hire employers that have a decent track record, and you won't have to worry about bailing out early or doing a runner. Besides, you'll likely need crucial documents like an employment verification letter/certificate and proof of final exit from that employer if you plan on staying in the region for work. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Those who have led sheltered lives sometimes do not hack it. Best are those who have worked in "difficult" places like Kazakhstan or Burkina Faso ! A teaching apprenticeship in an inner-city school in a UK or US urban environment would count as "difficult" ! |
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