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GreatApe
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 582 Location: South of Heaven and East of Nowhere
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:12 am Post subject: |
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@ talentedcrayon
I use a book called "Challenge to Speak" at my university gig, where I teach Oral English 1, 2, and 3. "Challenge to Speak" has at least 2 edition levels
(I use 1 and 2) and, while it's certainly not a "perfect" textbook. It's decent enough. It's topical, has exercises for students to practice and review and can be easily supplemented with your own materials to expand the lessons and units.
I rarely use one text, but have used "Challenge to Speak" for 5 years now with decent success. It also comes with an MP3 disc.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck! and KEEP GOING!
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:11 am Post subject: |
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GreatApe wrote: |
@ talentedcrayon
I use a book called "Challenge to Speak" at my university gig, where I teach Oral English 1, 2, and 3. "Challenge to Speak" has at least 2 edition levels
(I use 1 and 2) and, while it's certainly not a "perfect" textbook. It's decent enough. It's topical, has exercises for students to practice and review and can be easily supplemented with your own materials to expand the lessons and units.
I rarely use one text, but have used "Challenge to Speak" for 5 years now with decent success. It also comes with an MP3 disc.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck! and KEEP GOING!
--GA |
Which publisher produces Challenge to Speak? |
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fpshangzhou
Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 280
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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I use Side by Side with a group of Adult beginners. It's alright, but I'm not a fan of those all inclusive books. Most of the activities are very dull and I tend to only use the dialogues and vocabulary to get the class to start talking, whether on topic or off topic.
The few resources I combine on my ppts include:
"English Podcast" dialogues/vocabulary (download from net)
"Compelling Conversations" Questions (download from net)
"King Topics of Oral English" for the dialogues (buy on taobao site)
"100 Topics for Daily English Situations" for dialogues, vocabulary, exercises (buy on taobao site)
Using material from these can easily create a 2 hour class, but most of these books are for low intermediate learners. However, you can modify the material according to the learner's proficiency level.
I might go ahead and get that "Challenge to Speak" series 1-3, which can be found on taobao for quite cheap. |
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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Non Sequitur wrote: |
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Which publisher produces Challenge to Speak? |
Higher Education Press. According to the Taobao page I found this on ( http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.XtDR0J&id=43677225096&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=140105335569ed55e27b&pm_id=&abbucket=18 ), it looks like they have updated it for 2014.
I used this book sparingly in my last university since it was full of errors of every sort. A newer version had the same errors as the last version. (I'm not referring to differences in American vs British syntax or whatever, but common bonehead errors including typographical errors, errors in usage, or errors in culture.) I don't know if they have cleaned up any of the obvious errors in the latest edition but I have blocked any specific errors from my memory so I can't provide details. I'm not in China now.
It is a good book to have as far as having topics in a fairly good order, so I would usually write my own dialogues to be used instead of the ones in the book. It's a pretty good book for topics. Scroll down on the taobao page to see the chapter list. |
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GreatApe
Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 582 Location: South of Heaven and East of Nowhere
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Non Sequitur wrote:
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Which publisher produces Challenge to Speak? |
roadwalker's correct. It's Higher Education Press
I just got the new editions last semester and haven't taught every unit in the books yet, but I've found it to be useful in my lesson planning and as a 'basic text."
As for the errors, I'm not prepared to say it's "full of errors" but let's just say the printing and publishing could have been done much more carefully. But I'd say the same about most of the books I've used in China. Overall, I think the set-up is decent and, as I said, it's got some pretty good readings and activities in it. I much prefer the "A & B" conversation activities over something like "New Interchange" too.
roadwalker's right ... it's not a perfect text, but it is, I think, quite good topically, and I've never taught the entire book. it's a decent text to add to through supplementation.
Take it for what it's worth.
--GA |
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Markness
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 738 Location: Chengdu
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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The interchange books work well with adults. They definitely allow for some controversial questions to be posed to potentially cause some discussion.
I also use breakingnewsenglish.com and print off an article from there. This also includes full lesson plans with a load of questions to go along with the article. Great for the lazy lesson planners.. AHEM, of course not myself :p |
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talentedcrayon
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the recommendations.
Basically what I decided to do is just create my own curriculum and materials.
It's taking more hours to prepare than I spend in the classroom teaching. But, my classes are exactly what I want them to be... |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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talentedcrayon wrote: |
Thanks for the recommendations.
Basically what I decided to do is just create my own curriculum and materials.
It's taking more hours to prepare than I spend in the classroom teaching. But, my classes are exactly what I want them to be... |
I did in the end. Getting a class set copied was a bit of a problem as my school had a semester copying allowance. After I reached the max I had to pay.
With care a set of dialogues will last a semester. The sh**ty copy paper doesn't make for longevity.
I like to adopt a 'follow me' approach in class and being prepared (and resourced) is part of that.
Best |
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toteach
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 273
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Bumping for NS |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks toteach.
I was more interested in who makes decisions and who pays.
i.e
1. School decides and pays for textbook which is then supplied 'free' to students.
2. School decides and students buy independently.
3. Which schools use non-Chinese texts and what might be reasons. |
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LeiFeng
Joined: 23 Apr 2015 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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fpshangzhou mentioned downloading "Compelling Conversations." I would second this recommendation, but add that it is well worth buying your own copy of the full book (there seem to be only a few chapters online). I have found that book to be a particularly valuable resource when it comes to planning conversation lessons, even when I just use it for ideas and don't bring copies of the actual chapters.
I also like the site http://www.elllo.org, which has much better/more interesting dialogues (recordings and transcripts) than your average EFL textbook (i.e. the banal dialogues in New Interchange). It is geared toward ELLs and not teachers, but it is very easy to find dialogues from there for all levels and topics, and integrate them into a lesson.
As far as basic textbooks for speaking go, I have used the "Exploring English" series for years for teaching beginner students. They are a bit low on content, but they have more flair than your average barf-worthy EFL textbook. It looks like someone actually had fun coming up with the dialogue and artwork, and students respond well to them. |
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