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En929
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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How do some of you feel about the TESOL certification program that the University of Toronto is giving? This one is university backed. The link is below. Has anybody tried it before and been succesful? Does anybody know anybody who has tried it? Thanks!
https://teflonline.teachaway.com/enroll/ |
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spiral78

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Despite its reputable university affiliation, it is solely on-line and includes no face-to-face teaching practice with real students. The 120 and 150 hour versions aren't significantly cheaper than a CELTA, which does include the KEY supervised teaching practice.
This online course simply won't open all the entry-level doors. Only those where online courses are accepted -and these are the same as those that require no cert at all. |
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scot47

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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If it is online, many employers will not accept it. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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In addition to what others have said, this program is offered through the continuing education program, not a regular academic division (e.g., Department of English or School of Education) so it's more on par with the university's offerings in, say, Basketweaving for Hobbyists rather than the more academically rigorous Basketweaving 101. In any case, it's certainly not covered by the university's accreditation as a regular academic program would be.
http://www.oise.utoronto.ca/conted/TEFLOnline.html |
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En929
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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How about if I'm already a United States certified teacher. I've been certified to teach in the United States (not TESOL). but have been certified in education and just need a TEFL/TESOL certificate because some countries require it; even though I've already been through MANY teaching practicums already to become the teacher that I am now. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Teaching EFL bears little/no relation to teaching core subjects in the students' native language. Take a CELTA if you want to be taken seriously in the EFL field. |
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santi84
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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En929 wrote: |
How about if I'm already a United States certified teacher. I've been certified to teach in the United States (not TESOL). but have been certified in education and just need a TEFL/TESOL certificate because some countries require it; even though I've already been through MANY teaching practicums already to become the teacher that I am now. |
I read earlier that you want to teach in China/Asia. For that purpose, this certificate will satisfy requirements. That being said, I agree with others that teaching a foreign language is different than a core subject. Not to say you are on par with someone who has no teaching background (obviously, you have much better training), but it is different. I've done both.
For any outfit that will take a certificate without any practicum, they are all pretty much the same, so you might as well find the cheapest one. That being said, I don't recommend online-only certificates. I think happy was selling one for $20. That plus a couple of good library TESL books will be about the same. |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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En929 wrote: |
How about if I'm already a United States certified teacher. I've been certified to teach in the United States (not TESOL). but have been certified in education and just need a TEFL/TESOL certificate because some countries require it; even though I've already been through MANY teaching practicums already to become the teacher that I am now. |
It depends on your teaching interests and target overseas locations. If you expect to teach content (e.g., elementary education, art, history, etc.) and not TESOL, then this cert would likely be fine as an add-on. Ditto for having an ESL endorsement. However, if you intend to teach EFL abroad, an online TEFL cert may limit you as to where you can teach because the better employers (and some visa regs) require a valid qualification that entailed 120 hours of in-class instruction. Frankly, if it's TEFL you're interested in, the bigger question is why you (a licensed American teacher) would want to take a mediocre TEFL job rather than a more lucrative position teaching your subject in an overseas international school. |
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En929
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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For any outfit that will take a certificate without any practicum, they are all pretty much the same, so you might as well find the cheapest one. That being said, I don't recommend online-only certificates. I think happy was selling one for $20. That plus a couple of good library TESL books will be about the same.
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En929
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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It depends on your teaching interests and target overseas locations. If you expect to teach content (e.g., elementary education, art, history, etc.) and not TESOL, then this cert would likely be fine as an add-on. Ditto for having an ESL endorsement. However, if you intend to teach EFL abroad, an online TEFL cert may limit you as to where you can teach because the better employers (and some visa regs) require a valid qualification that entailed 120 hours of in-class instruction. Frankly, if it's TEFL you're interested in, the bigger question is why you (a licensed American teacher) would want to take a mediocre TEFL job rather than a more lucrative position teaching your subject in an overseas international school. |
Normad, I would enjoy that too! In fact, if I could get a good post, then I actually prefer that. Most of the jobs that I keep seeing are regarding teaching English, but I wouldn't mind teaching music overseas too. I just thought I'd get a TEFL certificate to be qualified for more things. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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En929 wrote: |
Most of the jobs that I keep seeing are regarding teaching English, but I wouldn't mind teaching music overseas too. I just thought I'd get a TEFL certificate to be qualified for more things. |
It would help to know what your exact degree major is, what you're licensed to teach, and how many months/years you've taught that subject. |
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En929
Joined: 22 Feb 2015 Posts: 25
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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nomad soul wrote: |
En929 wrote: |
Most of the jobs that I keep seeing are regarding teaching English, but I wouldn't mind teaching music overseas too. I just thought I'd get a TEFL certificate to be qualified for more things. |
It would help to know what your exact degree major is, what you're licensed to teach, and how many months/years you've taught that subject. |
I have a Music Education degree from the University of Missouri-St. Louis and have Missouri state certification. And have taught for about 9 years. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:25 am Post subject: |
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The University of Toronto does have a high quality program for teaching ESL (but it's not the one that the OP is asking about). This is the link:
http://wdw.utoronto.ca/tesol/
You cannot do it online. It has a mandatory practicum.
UofT ALSO has a masters degree in Second Language Education available online. The entry requirements are either the above ESL program (or an equivalent- other universities in Ontario also offer TESOL / TESL certificates), or a bachelor of education, but it says it's specifically for Canadian teachers.
Here's the brochure:
http://www.oise.utoronto.ca/online/UserFiles/File/HomePageFiles/SLE-OnlineMEdBrochure.pdf
As others have mentioned, you could look at doing a CELTA. Also, you could look at doing a degree in language teaching from the US by distance (Anaheim comes to mind, but there must be others).
Because distance education in Canada is still far behind distance education in Australia, the UK or the US (with the exception of Athabasca University- an open university in Canada that doesn't do TESOL related things, and Calgary University I think has opened a few M.Ed programs [including language teaching] lately- there are also a few Christian universities that offer programs in language teaching), most Canadians overseas who need to do graduate degrees by distance go through schools in the UK (maybe Ireland as well), Australia (maybe New Zealand, too) or the US. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:40 am Post subject: |
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GambateBingBangBOOM wrote: |
Also, you could look at doing a degree in language teaching from the US by distance (Anaheim comes to mind, but there must be others). |
Anaheim is not regionally accredited and, also, it's a for-profit school, two things that would be red flags for many prospective employers. Though, in its defense, Anaheim does have a huge TESOL program and, unlike many for-profit schools, it doesn't seem to be in hot water with the Federal government right now. That being said, ASU Online, CSU Global, or similar programs affiliated with regionally accredited public universities would be a better option. |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:48 am Post subject: Re: University of Toronto's TEFL certification program |
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En929 wrote: |
I have a Music Education degree from the University of Missouri-St. Louis and have Missouri state certification. And have taught for about 9 years. |
I've seen recent ads for licensed music teachers (for the UAE). Do an Internet search using music education jobs [country name] for possible openings in your target countries. |
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