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Clicker
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| Yeah, "competitive" means decent, but not great - enough to get a few people to work for them. "Highly competitive" means "attractive" I would say. But often this translates to more work as well, especially based off the application process. What would be "attractive" for Shanghai? For me, as it is expensive there, I would say 20-25k rmb/mo + a free modern furnished 1-2 bed flat not too far from the office + 8 weeks paid vacation and airfare. The problem is, of course, NYU isn't showing their cards. I guess if you fancy the NYU brand and long for Shanghai, it's worth rolling the dice. Also remember the salary will be tax free for certain countries initially if you're new to China. But Americans would still have to pay the SS tax since it's an American company. |
That sounds a little lower than what I would expect and even more so for those with a PhD. |
That's a very decent wage for teaching at a university in China. Most 'average' uni jobs run from 5-7k a month.
It's a different question as to if it's a decent wage in Shanghai... |
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spanglish
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| Clicker wrote: |
| spanglish wrote: |
| nfig77 wrote: |
| Yeah, "competitive" means decent, but not great - enough to get a few people to work for them. "Highly competitive" means "attractive" I would say. But often this translates to more work as well, especially based off the application process. What would be "attractive" for Shanghai? For me, as it is expensive there, I would say 20-25k rmb/mo + a free modern furnished 1-2 bed flat not too far from the office + 8 weeks paid vacation and airfare. The problem is, of course, NYU isn't showing their cards. I guess if you fancy the NYU brand and long for Shanghai, it's worth rolling the dice. Also remember the salary will be tax free for certain countries initially if you're new to China. But Americans would still have to pay the SS tax since it's an American company. |
That sounds a little lower than what I would expect and even more so for those with a PhD. |
That's a very decent wage for teaching at a university in China. Most 'average' uni jobs run from 5-7k a month.
It's a different question as to if it's a decent wage in Shanghai... |
True.
I'd recommend folks take a look at NYU's salaries for comparable positions at the home campus in NYC as a starting point for guestimating salary ranges in Shanghai. |
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melvaughn
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Has anyone heard yet about this school or received an interview? I applied about three weeks ago to the EAP lecturer position. I admit the one page course syllabus description took me quite a while to complete as well as trying to coordinate all my references to upload their letters into their system.
You can't simply show your letter of references but the referee's themselves all have to upload their letters online. So it takes a lot of work/effort. I'm also curious about the non-existent salary information...
I do know they give a generous housing allowance that you can negotiate...(I heard this from someone working there) but that's all I know. |
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Charlie123
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FYI, NYU quietly retracted the EAP positions they had advertised because of lower-than-expected enrolment for next Fall. They didn't acknowledge this in their rejection slips. They just told applicants that they didn't make the short list, (which was basically a lie, since there was no short list).
---Oh, you spent several hours on your application? You say you could have used the time applying to jobs that existed? Tough luck. Welcome to NYU. |
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spanglish
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| Charlie123 wrote: |
FYI, NYU quietly retracted the EAP positions they had advertised because of lower-than-expected enrolment for next Fall. They didn't acknowledge this in their rejection slips. They just told applicants that they didn't make the short list, (which was basically a lie, since there was no short list).
---Oh, you spent several hours on your application? You say you could have used the time applying to jobs that existed? Tough luck. Welcome to NYU. |
Sadly, that doesn't surprise me one bit. |
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danmbob
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updates?
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bagua8
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| BTW, the American debt fueled ponzi scheme known as higher education runs on the blood of poorly paid and tenuously employed adjuncts who are expected to come to a position with their own courses, since they are probably teaching said course at 4 or 5 institutions. So, the "tell us what your course would be" question is not an inquiry into the teacher's skill set. They literally want to see the course you would plan on creating from scratch. The Sino-US collaboration I work for certainly runs this way. |
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bagua8
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| So what i am saying is that the question asked is unlike the "how would you prescriptively teach grammar in spite of the fact that prescriptive grammar instruction doesn't work" question mentioned by a previous poster. |
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JB140767
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| Colleague moonlighted with them last year $70 parttime hours, but they expected a lot of prep for that. Said he was asked about going fulltime @$60000 but that included the accom allowance. Also said they had some incomprehensible cross-border tax system which meant they paid a loooooot of tax which meant coming out with about 40000 usd after - considerably less than NNingbo for example. Not saying it's bad, but it's only just about ok |
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HeidiHector
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That is not really for TESOL (they advertise it as such but most who are hired studied Eng Lit in grad school) though you are basically doing TESOL work. I heard that the actual English language program has filled all their FT posts and has started to rely on local freelancers for adjunct needs.
They have also been re-re-re-recruiting for what is supposedly a "permanent" position for as long as I remember.
Disclaimer: Worked for NYU in NYC so heard this through the grapevine. |
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