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ayeshamai
Joined: 14 Dec 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:49 pm Post subject: European passport, cannot find a job! |
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Dear all,
I am looking for a college or university that recruit EFL teachers, I haven't got a UK/US/SA passport. I have an European passport.
I have had many jobs offer in KSA but they won't take me because of my passport.
I have a UK degree, PGCE and a CELTA. I have been teaching for 7 years but cannot find a job anywhere.
I really need help!! |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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There are a number of errors in the English in your post. If potential employers have noticed similar issues in the documents and emails you are using to seek employment, this may be the problem.
Otherwise, it may just be the perception that native speakers are better versed in the language, as you are presumably from a non-Anglophone country. |
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ayeshamai
Joined: 14 Dec 2013 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: sorry |
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| sorry for the spelling mistakes i was typing very fast |
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balqis
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 373
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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There is a number of non-native speakers in KSA, quite a number I should say, and in the Gulf in general. So being an EU citizen is not the reason you cannot find a job, especially that you have a UK degree.
What is the reason then? You are unlucky, for example, and the competiton is quite tough here in the Gulf or KSA. Or you have been applying for jobs at universities which have visa restrictions, usually a pool of visas issued only for the 5 English-speaking native nationalities.
Or you do not have enough tertiary experience in your CV to work for a uni in KSA. Or you are a single female, too young for KSA.
In general I have met many European continental teachers in the Gulf, not only French, German, Dutch or Italian, but a number of Russian teachers too, and then again not only Russians per sei, but also teachers from Estonia, a number of Armenians, Georgians, Ukrainians and Belarussians, even one Lithuanian TEFL prof. I also met a charming Serb, a Macedonian, and a few Romanians. So your nationality doesn't necessarily exclude you from the TEFL game in KSA. I reckon reasons are different.
Besides, if you say, as you are saying, you have had many job offers from KSA, how is it possible then that somebody is offering you a contract and at the same time is telling you they cannot take you on board because of your nationality? To me it is mutually exclusive to offer a contract and withdraw the very contract at the same time.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The strange visa allocation system in KSA specifies the nationality for vacancies. Many EFL jobs will be earmarked for holders of UK or US passports. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| ayeshamai wrote: |
I have had many jobs offer in KSA but they won't take me because of my passport. I have a UK degree, PGCE and a CELTA. I have been teaching for 7 years but cannot find a job anywhere.
I really need help!! |
Even if you were to get a visa for KSA, there is no guarantee you'd be able to bring your husband and children with you under your sponsorship. (That was an issue you brought up in your thread from last year.)
Anyway, in order for us to figure out where your best chances for employment are, you need to provide more specific info (e.g., your nationality/passport country, degree level and major, if your degree was via online/distance study, and your specific TEFL experience).
By the way, always indicate your nationality near the top of your CV along with your level of English fluency (e.g., native fluency, near-native fluency). |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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You're best bet is to post you're resume on www.seriousteachers.com. There are some schools in Saudi Arabia that might look at it and hire you. One of the problems will be the school getting you an employment visa as a nonnative English speaker. A company most likely would have to bring you in on a business visa. Another thing, there is no way you will make the same wages; if you get hired by a school you would get 9000 Riyals (2400 US) with no accommodation or travel allowance, or you might get 1500 U.S. with travel and accommodation. With no accommodation or travel allowance your options would be to rent a car and find an inexpensive apartment, or rent an expensive apartment close to the school. It would amount to same earnings in your pocket roughly $1500.
I think you're best option for teaching English may be to find a school in Cambodia then jump to Vietnam. You will have to be present in those countries to find a job there. The wages in Cambodia can be spotty but liveable. Phnom Pen is a nice place to be compared to other places. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| OP has dependants. |
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cultofpersonality
Joined: 12 Jan 2012 Posts: 94
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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As if some of these doughnuts in Saudi Arabia can notice improper use of English....lol
The best bet is to try Al Yamamah University through Interlink. I am certain they are not so fussy over nationality. |
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FrenchConnexion
Joined: 22 Jan 2015 Posts: 48
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
As a French native working as an ESL lecturer in a KSA uni, I can tell you that yes indeed, having a non-UK/US/Australian, etc. passport IS a major issue. It might be from the EU, but so long as the company doesn't have a visa for your country, even your UK degree won't do much good for you.
However, I have found that a European passport holder has much more chances to get a job in a government uni than in a private one, or through a private recruiting company. Government bodies easily get the visas they need, and as a matter of fact, I have been working with people from the Netherlands and Sweden, Malaysia, Turkey, Pakistan, India, you name it.
I also find that what Plumpy Nut has written in terms of benefits, or lack thereof, for non-native speakers, is absolutely not true... where on earth did you get your facts?
I don't know where you got the idea that "A company most likely would have to bring you in on a business visa (?). Another thing, there is no way you will make the same wages (true, bu | | |