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Without a 4 year degree, how much experience?
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blackrosewitch121



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Without a 4 year degree, how much experience? Reply with quote

I am a Native Speaker with a US Passport, a TEFL 120 hour, a 2 year (not 4 year), but I plan on getting upwards of 10 years of experience teaching english in other countries. I already have 3 years. How much experience do I need to teach English Legally in Japan? Thank you.

I have heard of the skilled labor visa
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Without a 4 year degree, how much experience? Reply with quote

blackrosewitch121 wrote:
I have heard of the skilled labor visa

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The Skilled Workers Visa category is for the following skilled workers:
Cook
Architectural Engineer
Repair Technician
Processing Engineer
Animal Trainer
Mining Engineer
Aircraft Pilot
Sports Trainer
Wine Sommelier

The common characteristic of these jobs is that they require the application of specific industrial techniques or skills that are considered uncommon in Japan.

The Applicant is expected to have a high level of skill and significant experience. Often, Applicants are brought to Japan to assist with specific projects rather than indefinitely.
Source: http://www.japanvisa.com/visas/japan-skilled-labor-visa
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jkozera



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be wrong but I believe a requirement to teach in Japan is a minimum of a 4 year degree. This requirement is set by the Japanese government if I am not mistaken. Correct me if I am wrong Smile
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in Japan on a spousal visa, you can also fulfill the requirement. They really just want the BA to be able to process your visa otherwise, although I have heard of guys without degrees getting left out in the cold by degreed competition.
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jkozera



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew about the spousal visa and I have heard of people being left in the dust by those with degrees. I know that my employer requires a 4 year degree. I know in the states you can have a 2 year degree in anything but have 10+ years experience in other professions and get hired based off of that but teaching abroad seems to be somewhat unique in requiring that education no matter the experience
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blackrosewitch121



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there is absolutely no way around the education ? I mean I have 2 years already. I thought that if you have enough relevant experience you can work there? If I had 10 years of experience in ESL teaching I would think I can fulfill the brief
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need a 4-year degree. I believe that 3 years relevant experience is sufficient.

Your visa would be a Specialist in Humanities visa.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackrosewitch121 wrote:
So there is absolutely no way around the education?


Why do you want to bypass the education requirement? What's the big hurry?
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blackrosewitch121



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

esl_prof wrote:
blackrosewitch121 wrote:
So there is absolutely no way around the education?


Why do you want to bypass the education requirement? What's the big hurry?


I refuse to have student debt like so many Americans in the U.S. and I could barely get out of the 2 year degree without debt. Also I can't stand college as I actually haven't learned anything useful in my career that I am doing now. I learned more in my TEFL and actual teaching than in any college class. As well as having to worry about finding a job for my partner who is Japanese and wanting to be able to live in Japan so we don't have to keep jumping around. It's EXTREMELY hard to get him hired anywhere. And even though we have been together for almost 4 years I don't want to have to get married to him in America JUST to be able to have him stay there. Anyway those are my personal reasons and opinions on this matter. In the eventual future I will probably get the rest of my 4 year, but at this moment in time, that is extremely difficult and not really possible. My parents also do not support giving money for college at all.
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jkozera



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pitarou wrote:
You don't need a 4-year degree. I believe that 3 years relevant experience is sufficient.

Your visa would be a Specialist in Humanities visa.


depends where you live, in the states we don't have a 3 year option due to the universities wanting to drain all the $$ they can. We only have a 4 year undergraduate degree. you CAN do it in less than 4 years by taking 18 credits a term and taking summer classes but that usually only shaves off like half a year
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