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ardiles81
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:34 pm Post subject: Cashing in... |
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Ok...just considering a final contract out in the sun. My soul is sold and values sunk yes,I am Thinking only money for three years. Anything else is an extra. Where would be best? Saudi, BAE, Saudi unis, Kuwait, Qatar... |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:08 am Post subject: |
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If I recall, you have a related MA and experience... was some of it in the Middle East? Since you mention final contract, are you over 60? Male or female?
That information may help people advise you...
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ardiles81
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Still plenty of employment life in me not to get the application binned and all the relevant experience and qualifications. Just considering selling my soul again for one last time before baling out of EFL altogether. |
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returnee2014
Joined: 06 Jun 2014 Posts: 37 Location: SuliTown, Iraq
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:51 am Post subject: |
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You solicit advice but then don't want to answer queries that would inform the adviser.
If you have an MA in English or TEFL and 5 years experience, then you might find a pretty decent gig at a reputable Saudi University (if it's not too late already, they hire early).
If your qualifications are less, then you risk taking something with a good salary that turns out to be a nightmare scenario.
That's my end conclusion from my job search over the last couple months as I've considered returning to Saudi. I got on as a direct hire in 2005-2007, but seems like the shady recruiters have taken over the industry since then. |
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DB65
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MuscatGary
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Not Oman, they started to enforce the no over-60 rule quite severely a year ago. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:01 am Post subject: |
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From his response above, I assume that he is well under 60...
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nomad soul
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:12 am Post subject: |
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From his response above, I assume that he is well under 60... |
Perhaps the subject line, "Cashing in...," gave the impression the OP was near the end of the line. |
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MuscatGary
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:38 am Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
From his response above, I assume that he is well under 60...
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I was responding to DB65's post. |
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randytheringworm
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the subject line, "Cashing in...," gave the impression the OP was near the end of the line. |
Yes, actually "cash in" can mean to die as in the famous poem by Robert Service , The Cremation of Sam McGee:
And that very night, as we lay packed tight in our robes beneath the snow,
And the dogs were fed, and the stars o'erhead were dancing heel and toe,
He turned to me, and "Cap," says he, "I'll cash in this trip, I guess;
And if I do, I'm asking that you won't refuse my last request."
Well, he seemed so low that I couldn't say no; then he says with a sort of moan:
"It's the cursèd cold, and it's got right hold till I'm chilled clean through to the bone.
Yet 'tain't being dead—it's my awful dread of the icy grave that pains;
So I want you to swear that, foul or fair, you'll cremate my last remains."
A pal's last need is a thing to heed, so I swore I would not fail;
And we started on at the streak of dawn; but God! he looked ghastly pale.
He crouched on the sleigh, and he raved all day of his home in Tennessee;
And before nightfall a corpse was all that was left of Sam McGee. |
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Gulezar
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Cashing in... |
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ardiles81 wrote: |
Ok...just considering a final contract out in the sun. My soul is sold and values sunk yes,I am Thinking only money for three years. Anything else is an extra. Where would be best? Saudi, BAE, Saudi unis, Kuwait, Qatar... |
I don't get it. Anyone with proper qualifications and plenty of years to burn should just look at the job postings and apply. Then take the acceptance offers and pick from the best. There is just too much variation within each country to say that one country is "the best". Personally, Saudi was not my best offer from an array of Gulf countries. Do folks really feel that teaching in the Gulf is "selling one's soul" and shows a lack of values? |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Cashing in... |
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Gulezar wrote: |
ardiles81 wrote: |
Ok...just considering a final contract out in the sun. My soul is sold and values sunk yes,I am Thinking only money for three years. Anything else is an extra. Where would be best? Saudi, BAE, Saudi unis, Kuwait, Qatar... |
I don't get it. Anyone with proper qualifications and plenty of years to burn should just look at the job postings and apply. Then take the acceptance offers and pick from the best. There is just too much variation within each country to say that one country is "the best". Personally, Saudi was not my best offer from an array of Gulf countries. Do folks really feel that teaching in the Gulf is "selling one's soul" and shows a lack of values? |
Yes. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Cashing in... |
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MuscatGary wrote: |
Gulezar wrote: |
Do folks really feel that teaching in the Gulf is "selling one's soul" and shows a lack of values? |
Yes. |
That is his reasoning. It wasn't mine. What is true for one... or some... isn't true for all.
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scot47
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I would imagine that only a small percentage of EFLers have heard of Robert Service and/or Sam McGee.
I was often surprised at the shallowness of the education of those who ended up EFLing. |
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