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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 401 Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I'll clarify that. There are many throughout KSA, but on each major highway there are normally a few dotted along it. I think there are 3-4 between Riyadh and Dammam for example.
In Riyadh. at weekends especially, there are often checkpoints on the frontage roads of highways, normally looking for underage drivers etc.
Didn't say it was an issue for you, but maybe your info is out of date. |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 401 Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:09 am Post subject: |
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You'll get something okay for 20-30K SAR. Something that goes for 10K.
as far as garages and repairs go, if you can find an honest guy, the labour is next to nothing so that's not a problem, your costs will depend on the type of car you have and how easily obtained the parts can be found.
Another good reason for going Jap/Korea is that they can be fixed anywhere, quickly and easily. |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| If a foreigner has a traffic "incident" with a Saudi involved, the Saudi will be the winner. |
Myth.
Been knocked twice by Saudis and "won" both times.
A colleague very recently was front/side swiped by a Saudi. No witnesses stopped. The Saudi tried to settle on the spot, but colleague insisted on a police report for his insurance. They went to a nearby cop who listened to both stories (the Saudi driver was blaming my co-worker saying he hit him from behind)...cop inspected both cars and ruled in the american's favor.
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Just out of curiosity, whats tue guide price for a car in KSA? |
Generally, 50,000 SAR (and up) will get you something reasonably new and above all - safe.
Try to buy from a Western expat on his way out on a final exit. |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mnruman wrote: |
| Have you got any idea, of how it costs to buy a used jap? |
Have a look around at: expatriates dot com |
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MixtecaMike

Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 643 Location: Guatebad
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Don't buy a Kia, the agency prices for repairs, parts are completely extortionate (at least here in Jubail). Resale value is very low, but it also means you can pick one up fairly cheaply.
Driving is not as bad as scot47 claims. The traffic is fast and many drivers thoughtless and I have spent a good deal of wasted energy giving them 1-finger salutes, but in the case of an accident, getting stuck in the sand, or anything like that many people (Saudis) will stop immediately to lend a helping hand.
People (foreign devils only) who don't (didn't) drive will tell you how much they don't need a car, but you can ignore them. If not just grouchy old codgers they were probably traumatized in a car accident in their past life.
The gas is so cheap and the convenience factor is so high you will really enjoy your stay much more on wheels, especially with a family in tow.
And of course with your own car, you can fit baby seats (the original topic question, I recall). |
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scot47

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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"Take kids to school". Will you do that as well as drive to work ? Schools usually arrange transport for pupils.
I will leave you to your worship of the False God Ford. I am happy without that modern day Baal !
At KFUPM I was fortunate in that I lived within walking distance of my classroom. A great civilising influence ! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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If you're married in Saudi, you probably need a car.
If you're not, chances are that you might not need one.
If the hassle of buying, owning, selling and (especially) driving in Saudi can be avoided, I'd certainly choose (and did choose - except when my wife was over there) to do without a car.
Regards,
John |
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Amerrycan Muslim
Joined: 01 Jul 2014 Posts: 51 Location: KSA
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I first came out to KSA in 2005 and have to say, that while there is undoubtedly room for improvement, dangerous driving has lessened quite a bit... I see a lot more undercover cop cars on the highway between Jeddah and Makkah than I did even 3 years ago...
I also now people (westerners) whom have not been found at fault in traffic accidents with Saudis.. |
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mnruman
Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Posts: 93 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| cnthaiksarok wrote: |
| mnruman wrote: |
| Have you got any idea, of how it costs to buy a used jap? |
Have a look around at: expatriates dot com |
Some good replies here, just a few more. Here in the UK with a nice little car we need tax, MOT and insurance. Is there anything similar to that in KSA?
Also how does insurance work there? |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Also how does insurance work there? |
By law, you're required to have it and the proof on you.
A year or two of coverage CAN be worked into the negotiation when buying from an authorized dealer. (as well as the potential headache of transferring the "Istamara" = registration)
Beyond that, after you buy - you're vehicle will be entered into the Ministry of Interior's records and you'll receive a notice through your Abshir (sometimes Abshar) account (online).
That's so they can easily send you speeding tickets, etc. :p
This abshar bizness is a relatively new requirement in the ksa and from my point of view will become obligatory for all expats within the next year or two, but that's another story.
If you buy from an individual on the other hand, you'll have some homework to do - there are quite a few options out there, insurance-wise.
Finally, like most places there are levels of insured coverage:
fault / no fault, etc. |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| MixtecaMike wrote: |
| I have spent a good deal of wasted energy giving them 1-finger salutes, |
I would exercise EXTREME caution with that. I don't allow wild-gesturing road ragers in my car.
An acquaintance in Riyadh used to get all worked up on most of his drives, give the finger, shout out the window, etc. One early morning his reward was 3 bullet holes in the side of his car.  |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Amerrycan Muslim wrote: |
I first came out to KSA in 2005 and have to say, that while there is undoubtedly room for improvement, dangerous driving has lessened quite a bit... I see a lot more undercover cop cars on the highway between Jeddah and Makkah than I did even 3 years ago...
I also now people (westerners) whom have not been found at fault in traffic accidents with Saudis.. |
Those traffic cameras have improved the situation A LOT, too!
I hear they're prepping to start installing them in the mid to smaller cities as well.  |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 401 Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:57 am Post subject: |
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[quote="cnthaiksarok"][quote="mnruman"]Also how does insurance work there?[/quote]
By law, you're required to have it and the proof on you.
A year or two of coverage CAN be worked into the negotiation when buying from an authorized dealer. (as well as the potential headache of transferring the "Istamara" = registration)
Beyond that, after you buy - you're vehicle will be entered into the Ministry of Interior's records and you'll receive a notice through your Abshir (sometimes Abshar) account (online).
That's so they can easily send you speeding tickets, etc. :p
This abshar bizness is a relatively new requirement in the ksa and from my point of view will become obligatory for all expats within the next year or two, but that's another story.
If you buy from an individual on the other hand, you'll have some homework to do - there are quite a few options out there, insurance-wise.
Finally, like most places there are levels of insured coverage:
fault / no fault, etc.[/quote]
The 'Istamara' is fairly straightforward I think. It's all done online now. So long as you have your Iqama and a letter from your company, and the seller has all of his documents, should only take 30 mins or so. They will give you a slip to say the car is yours and then pick up the registration card a few days later. |
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scot47

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| When you buy a car, the details are entered on a Govt database. For final exit yiu need to sell the car, transfer ownership and get all the paperwork done. Hassle. |
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