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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Glen, what is your beef? I don't remember saying he was choking his chicken in front of Japanese women in the playground at the park while reading gang rape comics on his way home for his daily health with an underage school girl. |
True, you didn't. However, he must have broken a law somewhere, or the police wouldn't have arrested him, especially at 5 am!! Just what was he doing at that odd hour of the morning?
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| And I wasn't speculating, I was told by school officials he was terminated as a result of being arrested for a crime. |
You have edited your original post, so I cannot even state exactly what you did speculate, but it had something do to with you suspecting that immigration would be involved.
Stop editing like that! You have been told many times before!
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| Have you taken up a torch or is vacation getting to you? |
Yes, my vacation is getting to me. In case you hadn't heard, I had to cancel it at the last minute. This is the second or third time I have had to mention it on a forum. Why are you so snippy over a simple question? You said you weren't going to act this way. |
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Sweetsee
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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Location: ) is everything
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Glen,
I am terribly sorry. I hadn't heard about your vacation. Seems we have something else in common. I haven't canceled my vacation but the whole thing is a big mess. I don't know what I am doing this summer and it is troubling.
The business at school has caused me great stress and we worked all this past weekend meeting with the students' parents. The fact that these kids were dissing me everyday and I was unable to take control has taken it's toll on me.
I thoroughly appreciate your helping me and hope you can understand that I am just frazzled. I am desperate for intelligent discussion yet whenever I post I get dissected. The other day some kook brought up my first posts and how I can't manage a class or give a test. Well, after this long teaching I take that personally. Who really knows anything about me anyway? I don't know how to write and I am just discovering the difference between what I want to say and what I write. I can take back what I say but I can't edit what I write so people can keep throwing it in my face.
I wasn't expecting to defend myself over that post, I simply felt this was a tragic event for mate and in light of the other post regarding sexual assault I thought people would feel it a great injustice that this fate befell my friend.
All other posts were in reference to him and not me. Yet, yours was little to do with him and more to do with me, how come?
What was he doing at 5 o'clock in the morning? I refuse to speculate. He is in jail and when he gets out in 10 days I will ask him for you. He is sitting in a Japanese jail at the start of his summer vacation with no clothes. The police will have to go to his apartment to fetch his passport and things. That is the point here. Do you not understand that? Have you ever been in jail here? I seriously doubt it. I, on the other hand, have spent an entire summer in jail here and it turned my life upside down. |
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worldwidealive
Joined: 03 Mar 2004
Posts: 84
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Wait a minute?! You've spent an entire summer in a Japanese jail?!  Now this thread finally gets interesting. I have to ask - what for?? |
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hamel
Joined: 03 May 2004
Posts: 95
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| today was a scorcher in japan. better play it safe and keep your undies on. i hope this teacher gets some good legal help as it sounds as if his rights are being violated. thanks sweetsie. |
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LHanks
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| I lived in Japan for two years and I saw Japanese men on way too many occasions peeing out in broad daylight-saw more parts than I wanted. According to some of my Japanese friends this is normal behavior. I even saw a man sitting on the train, pants down around his ankles (he was shall we say...excited) and noone did anything. The train was pretty full, he was just ignored. Most likely the teacher got in trouble cause he was a foreigner-two sets of rules I suppose. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Posts: 4672
Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| today was a scorcher in japan. better play it safe and keep your undies on. i hope this teacher gets some good legal help as it sounds as if his rights are being violated. thanks sweetsie. |
If he's in Jail he doesnt have any rights. They can hold you up to 21 days before charging you with a crime.
there arent any Johnny Cochrans in the legal profession here and the judges are pretty much in bed with the police. This is the country where signed/forced confessions can seal a conviction, without your lawyer present. |
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Sweetsee
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hamel,
Rights? There is no bail, no lawyers, you are inncommunicado those 21 days. Actually, 10 days then possibbly 11 more.
At least I felt guilty, well stupid was more like it.
Why did you thank me, mate?
For whatever reason, you are welcome and it is very kind of you. Nicest thing anyone has said to me today, er recently actually.
Good on you, mate.
Be safe. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| He may have broken the law, but this is a country where it is apparently OK to get the 'old fella' out at anytime, and in any place, to urinate |
True, but as far as we know, Sweetsee's friend did neither of these things. When in Rome...obey the Romans. |
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king kakipi
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 353
Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| When in Rome...obey the Romans |
..................................................and especially when you are a 'non-Roman'.....................................  |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sweetsee wrote:
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| I am desperate for intelligent discussion yet whenever I post I get dissected. |
That's because of the way you write sometimes. But, we've already mentioned that.
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| The other day some kook brought up my first posts and how I can't manage a class or give a test. |
Perfect example. To label someone as a "kook" will draw fire. If you want intelligent conversation, even when you get flamed (and I don't consider that person's post a flame), be professional.
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| Well, after this long teaching I take that personally. Who really knows anything about me anyway? |
We know only what you tell us, and you have admitted that you have lived in Japan for about 15 years but find it hard to do many basic teaching routines, such as manage a class or create exams. Your words, not any other person's.
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| I don't know how to write and I am just discovering the difference between what I want to say and what I write. |
Just don't click the Submit button until you have read over what you have written and considered how it will be taken. And, never write in an emotional state. I do, and I wind up deleting about 80% of what I initially write.
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| I can take back what I say but I can't edit what I write so people can keep throwing it in my face. |
But, Sweetsee, you always edit what you write! You did so in this very thread!
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| All other posts were in reference to him and not me. Yet, yours was little to do with him and more to do with me, how come? |
Read them again. Except where I tell you not to speculate, everything I wrote pertained to your friend. Your writing leaves out so much that it just seems that I may have been attacking you.
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| What was he doing at 5 o'clock in the morning? I refuse to speculate. |
Ok, here is one thing that gets me. You point out that a friend of yours has been arrested. You mention skinny-dipping, which is a likely crime, so there should have been no surprise at that. It took you 2 posts to mention that it happened at 5 am. Beyond that, all we can see is that you feel sorry for him as a friend for his situation of being fired.
1. It would behoove you to hold back on some of your angst until you know your friend's full story. Maybe he was creating a ruckus while swimming at that strange hour. Maybe he was in a public area. Maybe he was also drunk. Maybe drugs were involved. Maybe minors were involved. Who can say? Not you. Not me. I feel for your friend for being arrested and detained by Japanese police, but only because I have read about what incarceration here is like. I do not feel sorry for him because of his crime (yet) because I don't know much other than what sounds like he deserved to be arrested.
2. You have been in this country for 15 years. Can you actually say that in all that time you have never heard of a single teacher getting fired after being arrested for something? Fifteen years is a long time, Sweetsee. Why are you so surprised at this?
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| He is sitting in a Japanese jail at the start of his summer vacation |
And, from the little we know at this time, he deserves it, whether it is summer vacation, or not. I realize you are emotionally concerned about him, but to pour out feelings by mentioning summer vacation does not affect what he did. One might say, Gee, if he had only waited until AFTER vacation...but that's just as irrelevant.
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| The police will have to go to his apartment to fetch his passport and things. That is the point here. |
Yes, that is the point. He was arrested for allegedly doing something against the law. Moreover, he didn't even have his clothes at his disposal (!!??) where he was skinny dipping!! [You said his boss has to get it for him.] Where did he live compared to where this took place? I can't imagine someone prancing down the street to the beach in the raw. The point is pretty simple, and you have stated it yourself more than once, although you seem hell-bent on diverting attention from the main issue...he was arrested for breaking the law in the first place. Whatever consequences that contains, so be it. Last month was crackdown month on overstaying foreigners. People are being deported for overstaying one day on student visas. A web site was created for locals to notify authorities about wrongdoing foreigners. The 9-11 incident has had everyone on edge. All of this is major news that is reported widely. Didn't your naked earlybird friend know he should have been more careful? |
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Sweetsee
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Glen,
You are right.
I am the kook.
And he has blown it many times here.
Should I introduce my neighbor for his job?
I have to write an essay for the school paper and can you imagine what that will look like? The good thing is no one will probably read it.
Thinking to write about Maria Sharapova in hopes of inspiring the girls, like to mention some Japanese athlete but can't be bothered.
How about giving me a couple tips? You dah man!
Merci beaucoup,
sweetsee
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| I have to write an essay for the school paper (snip)... How about giving me a couple tips? |
Who specifically is the target audience?
What have you been told to write about (even in general terms, what did they tell you)?
How long is the essay supposed to be?
When is the deadline? |
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Sweetsee
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Glen,
Went to Tokyo and played tennis with a guy with a Saudi oil company, cool guy, Benz with driver. I won a 4 game set but got smoked by our host.
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Who specifically is the target audience? (school paper, readership one)
What have you been told to write about (even in general terms, what did they tell you)? (nothing, zero, nada)
How long is the essay supposed to be?(5 paragraph job ought to suffice)
When is the deadline?( 29th?)
Will you really help me? Tell me what to do, in the mean time I will try to crank something out.
This is great!
Muchas gracias amigo,
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migo
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| what's the age of the people you're writing for? |
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Sweetsee
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi Migo,
Thank you for asking.
They are mostly girls, high school age.
I wrote something if you can help?
Thanks again,
sweetsee |
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