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ddacey
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 Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:39 am Post subject: Z visa question out of coutry |
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Hi
I'm currently in New Zealand finishing a work holiday visa
Hopeful to go to china next yea and teach for a year in coastal china.
I will not be returning home before I enter china.
Can anyone post experience with applying for a z visa outside of their country of origin. |
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zacharybilton
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| What's the issue? You go to the embassy or consulate and apply for it following the instructions for required forms, etc. Keeping in mind of course that China basically enforces getting a work visa in your home country. if 'ya can't follow the rules... |
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hdeth
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| More and more they're making people apply for z-visas in their home country. Just try applying for jobs and see what happens. Don't come on a tourist visa unless they pay for airfare if you have to fly home. There were at least 4 or 5 teachers here that came on tourist visas that had to fly home (school paid their airfare and maybe hotel) |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Z visa question out of coutry |
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| water rat wrote: |
| As far as I know if you have any kind of working/business/residency visa for a country you are not a citizen of - but not just a tourist /temporary visa or no visa at all- and you can get your criminal record check (rap sheet) from your home country, and a physical exam if your Chinese employer says it is a requirement in their province of China, you can get your Z visa at the country you're currently in |
I'm in process of applying for a Z visa from a third country, in which I have temporary legal residence (employed with residence permit) for a province in SW China. The FAO of the school has told me that I can apply with medical check from the country of current residence, as well as "no criminal record check" from the same country. (This actually makes sense as I have spent most of the last four years in that country, and only about eight weeks of it in my own.) Apparently whoever in the local (prefecture or provincial level) government is telling him that that is acceptable, so ... we'll see when the pudding's on the plate. |
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Deats
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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What medical checks do you need? FAO at the uni I am going to (in Guangdong) asked for my medical checks and I asked which ones, but she hasn't replied yet.
From my understanding of getting visas from other countries, a lot can depend on an embassy. I'm not sure if this is the same with the Chinese visa? Does it state which country/embassy you must apply in? |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Deats wrote: |
What medical checks do you need? FAO at the uni I am going to (in Guangdong) asked for my medical checks and I asked which ones, but she hasn't replied yet.
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The FAO should send the applicant a form (in Chinese and English) called "Physical Examination Report for Foreigners" if applying for a Z visa (whether he or she is in his / her own "home country" or another country, this form should be exactly the same). They need to print out this form and get it filled by a doctor at a hospital or clinic on the "approved list" - which could possibly consist of just one option - which they would get from the local chinese embassy or consulate in the country from which they want to apply (the school's FAO in China would have no idea where they should go).
It is a bit silly, since one is required to get a medical - including EKG and chest xray - before coming to China, so they will think you are sufficiently healthy / free of disease to be allowed in, but once your feet hit Chinese soil, that outside check is completely worthless, and you have to get it done all over again (and probably have to pay for both).
However, the FAO who is preparing my application told me that it's POSSIBLE, if the local or provincial authorities are willing to accept my outside med check report, I won't have to do another one in China.
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New question:
I'm applying from a third country, as noted above, and should get the documents within a few weeks to apply for the Z visa here.
After the application is approved - IF it is approved - I actually will be going back to my "home country" with my wife for a social visit with family and friends.
I'm applying for the Z visa from my wife's country because, 1) I can, since I'm a legal resident here at the moment, and 2) it is more convenient than it would be from the States. I would be really pressed for time if applying from there, would have to travel a lot farther to the Chinese consulate, etc.
After a few weeks stateside, it will be almost time to start the new job in China (around September 1st).
It would be a lot cheaper - and involve considerably less travel time / jetlag - if we flew directly from the US to China to start the job, rather than flying back to my wife's country first (it's farther from the US than China is).
But I'm wondering whether I'm likely to have a big hassle from the immigration officers when we try to enter China over why I'm flying there from my home country, though my visa is issued from another country?
In other words, is one strictly obliged to be coming in from the country the visa was issued in? Is it possible that if we weren't, they wouldn't let us in?
Any opinions / knowledge on this? |
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Deats
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This may be out of date, I don't know.
In 2009 I applied for a Chinese work visa in St Petersburg, Russia (whilst there as a tourist). Absolutely no problem whatsoever. I then went to England to visit family and flew to China from there, Back then I didn't need a medical test or anything.
Don't worry about where your visa is issued because when you arrive in China all they need to see is that you have a valid visa. They won't even know which plane you got off.
I have a feeling that different embassies in different countries have different rules for the same bloody visa. I was told I could only get my Russian work visa in my home country (England) or country of residence (China, at the time). I got it in South Africa with absolutely no questions asked.
All you can do is turn up and ask. I have received many tourist visas when I was told it wasn't possible by just turning up to the embassy and being nice  |
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mysterytrain
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Deats wrote: |
I have a feeling that different embassies in different countries have different rules for the same bloody visa.
All you can do is turn up and ask. I have received many tourist visas when I was told it wasn't possible by just turning up to the embassy and being nice |
I think that is very likely true (the first part quoted above).
I'm not too worried about the visa being granted by the local consulate, provided I get over the hump of getting the local gov in china to approve me for the job. But of course one never knows ... as you've said, nothing to do but give it a shot.
Thanks for the comforting words on the arrival to country, I hope that is right and so far have a consensus among the two consultants who've chimed in (one by PM). Of course, there is rarely ever, true consensus on this board about much of anything, so I'm sure somebody will be posting to say that I'll definitely be arrested and hanged on the spot should I attempt such an affrontery to the sanctity of the PRC ... |
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Shanghai Noon
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| Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I have entered China eight times now. The only time I even got a single question was at Guangzhou airport. They don't care how you get there as long as you enter China legally. You could go by oxcart and it wouldn't affect your status one bit. Though immigration officials do not know which flight you took, they can ask to see a boarding pass. It happened to me when I went to Ireland. Chinese officials never cared. |
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