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spiral78
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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There is way too much bias with a focus on defending one's own variety. They are all equal! One is no better than the other. Concentrate on meeting the students needs rather than defending your variety of English! |
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Brunouno
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
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There is way too much bias with a focus on defending one's own variety. They are all equal! One is no better than the other. Concentrate on meeting the students needs rather than defending your variety of English! |
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And after reading that quote, I need to concentrate on using apostrophes. Shame on me |
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spiral78
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, in this one case I will kindly overlook the lack of the apostrophe in favor of content (though I'd have circled students in red with a question mark;-). |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever about variety of English, it's quality should be a concern to alot of poser's who's writing betrays there lack of erudtion and grammer. Tsk tsk! |
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spiral78
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Ah, but Sash, some of them speak FOUR languages - surely you can overlook some obvious typos in such a case;-) |
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Phillip Schofield
Joined: 02 Feb 2015 Posts: 116 Location: The Land of Pelmeni and Honey
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I may have come late to the party, but I want to throw in a little experience I had a while back.
Our school had a student who traveled a lot to the US to attend Jazz conferences. We didn't have a US teacher at the time and so he was given to me.
After the initial pleasantries, he asked, in a rather disdainful manner, "How can you teach me American English if you are British? You can't speak their language."
I remember wondering whether to even bother trying to explain things to him. |
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spiral78
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Heh. I worked almost 8 years in a place where British English was the standard. Was able to handle the job. Reckon you were also. Students can be clueless:-) |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Too much nannying, perhaps? |
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Deats
Joined: 02 Jan 2015 Posts: 503
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I always tell my students I am multilingual. I can speak English, American, Australian, etc etc. |
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GotoRussia
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 182
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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hey Droggieman, how good's your Russian? you lived in Russia for what, over a decade or 2. should be perfectly fluent by now.
I'm willing to bet I speak with a better accent than he does with less than 1 year of studying..
as for the nannying, most of you couldn't even get an interview let alone a job with a family.
I've stayed at 5 star hotels in Europe, flown on private jets and helicopters, given an all expenses paid trip to New York to meet a potential client.
I wonder if your students even treated you to a coffee.
Tough life but hey somebody's gotta do it. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Couldn't understand British accents, but is convinced of superior language/accent learning skills |
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GotoRussia
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 182
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Some of those British accents are so thick I'm not even sure they're speaking English. the crisp American accent is way more pleasing to the ear.
it's like grating chalk the way the uncouth yobs from Soho talk.
Go to a pub on a weekend and here the drunkards, blimey mate...
Droggy you wanna post an audio clip of you speaking Russian and we'll compare it to mine? Dollars to donuts I sound more Russian than you.
My Russian friends have no problems understanding me, do yours?
Or for that matter we can do English. I got you beat on all counts. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Sure, we can both post clips of Russians speaking and pretend the audio is us.
But these assumptions are a marvel! No need for any base. They just float in a miasima of unenlightenment. No need for any coherent written expression of them either! Why, that's what jingoism is for! |
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Stirlitz17
Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Posts: 14 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:32 am Post subject: |
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GotoRussia wrote: |
Some of those British accents are so thick I'm not even sure they're speaking English. the crisp American accent is way more pleasing to the ear.
it's like grating chalk the way the uncouth yobs from Soho talk.
Go to a pub on a weekend and here the drunkards, blimey mate...
Droggy you wanna post an audio clip of you speaking Russian and we'll compare it to mine? Dollars to donuts I sound more Russian than you.
My Russian friends have no problems understanding me, do yours?
Or for that matter we can do English. I got you beat on all counts. |
Why are you so fixated on comparing your Russian accent to Sasha's? Are you insecure about your Russian or something? Even if your accent is 'better' than his, I'm sure his grammar and vocabulary are better than yours as you've only been studying for a about a year, so I'm sure that your grammar is far from perfect (no offense.) |
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Gamajorba
Joined: 03 May 2015 Posts: 357
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Hey, what's wrong with British English?!
...well, apart from when it's super heavy, slang ridden and generally incomprehendable to anyone outside the periphery of said accent/dialect...! |
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