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scot47
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| TINS - The Institute of Naval Studies in Dammam, Saudi Arabia hires only graduate teachers with EFL certification and experience. Tough job. |
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yowie
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Location: Australia
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Thanks Scot47, that is the sort of information I am looking for.
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nomad soul
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| I understand my limitations without a degree, and am also looking into Mongolia and South America to try and get some teaching experience, my other option is a study Japanese in Japan for a year and work legally with a student visa. I am in contact with a guy called Dave at the Nohingo School in Kyoto. I am not sure I could do the same thing in China, I am 45 and may be to old, but that is possibly an option I should be looking at? |
Check with the Japanese and Chinese Embassies in Australia for the age, financial, and other requirements for a study visa. Is this an option you should pursue? I'm not sure how spending a year or less in these countries will help you get your EFL career off the ground. But anyway, take a look at "How to study Japanese and teach part time, on short notice?" (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1065868).
Frankly, if I were you, I would head to those countries where you can legally teach without a degree, but then focus only on teaching general English. You really need to get that experience first before trying to jump into teaching an English for Specific Purposes (ESP) domain---in your case, maritime English. Besides, teaching basic English will have to be your bread-n-butter unless 1) there's a market for a maritime ESP course in those countries where your lack of degree isn't an issue; or 2) you decide to get a BA in order to greatly expand your options. |
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AGoodStory
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Maritime teaching |
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All apologies about my sarcasm, after 30 days straight with 2-3 hours sleep a day, I can get a little prickly.
I understand my limitations without a degree, and am also looking into Mongolia and South America to try and get some teaching experience, my other option is a study Japanese in Japan for a year and work legally with a student visa. I am in contact with a guy called Dave at the Nohingo School in Kyoto. I am not sure I could do the same thing in China, I am 45 and may be to old, but that is possibly an option I should be looking at? |
Personally I thought your remarks were pretty straightforward, mildly humorous, and not at all offensive. Goes to show the widely differing interpretations that different people can place on the same words.
I don't know about China, but a number of countries do grant student visas that permit work. Spain and Italy, for example, both permit 20 hours of work a week, and will approve a visa for study at a (Ministry approved) language school. But keep in mind that language programs that qualify--typically 20 hours/week of class--can be very expensive. It is also quite a challenge to juggle full-time study with full-time work. Teaching 20 hours a week is full-time work when you are beginning, taking into account prep time. (Varies, of course, with the job, but typically takes a lot more time the first year. )
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Old.coastie
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Location: Hampshire, UL
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Hello Yowie,
I've just done the CertTESOL after a a couple of decades with the Coastguard after a career at sea, and would also like to use this background to teach Maritime English.
Unfortunately professional qualifications don't seem to make up for the lack of a degree for immigration purposes. The number of people getting degrees was very small back in my day.
Luckily I can go anywhere within Europe, but not overseas. So I plan to get some experience in the mainstream and advertise the maritime specialty as I progress. Please, let me know how you get on. |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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Location: Ecuador
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| When I was in Indonesia I noticed that there were tons of maritime training schools around. I've no idea if they have call for English teachers, or what the visa requirements would be, but it might be somewhere to look at. |
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suphanburi
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If you want to work as a teacher within the ASEAN block AND you want to do it legally then an education to a minimum of a 1st degree is required.
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MotherF
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What kinds of institutions teach maritime English?
I ask because I know a woman who teaches English at the Mexican Navel Academy, she has an MA in TESOL and as far as I know she teaches general English. Her students take the TOEFL exam. But I'll admit my ignorance and maybe navel academies are not what you had in mind? |
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nomad soul
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| MotherF wrote: |
What kinds of institutions teach maritime English?
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But I'll admit my ignorance and maybe navel academies are not what you had in mind? |
Generally, it's those companies or institutions that offer classes under an English for Specific Purposes (ESP) domain. For example, Business English, English for Tourism, Legal English, EAP, Medical English, etc., are ESP domains. It's common for a TESOL teacher to partner with a subject matter expert (SME) --- one has extensive knowledge in the subject/content, while the other is experienced in facilitating learning. I've played both roles in an ESP course that I designed as well as taught, which isn't unusual, especially for those who change careers from another profession to teaching.
The OP's issue is that he doesn't have the teaching experience/background nor a degree (for visa purposes) despite being a maritime expert. |
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yowie
Joined: 16 May 2015
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:47 am Post subject: maritime English Teaching |
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| Old.coastie, if your interested, there is a conference in Malaysia in October. IMEC, International English Maritime Conference, I have booked a hotel and reserved a ticket (Approximately $250 USD). |
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