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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:51 am    Post subject: Students say Gulf education needs improvement Reply with quote

Gulf Students Say Their Education Needs Improvement
By Christina Maria Paschyn, Al-Fanar Media | 16 Oct 2013
Source: http://www.al-fanarmedia.org/2013/10/gulf-students-say-their-education-needs-improvement/

Despite having spent billions of dollars to revamp their education systems during the last two decades, Gulf countries are still struggling to prepare students for higher education and the workforce, according to a recent report voicing students’ views.

Many Gulf Cooperation Council youths are dissatisfied with the quality of their country’s education and believe more reform is needed, according to a 2013 report by the global management and consulting firm, Booz & Company titled, “Listening to Students’ Voices.” The firm commissioned a survey of more than 1,300 high school and first-year university students, including nationals and expatriates, who attended private local, public and international secondary schools in Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Among the key findings:

While many students surveyed believed they were receiving a good education, 15 percent said they were “not at all confident” or “not very confident” about receiving the best education. Twenty-one percent were neutral. Fifty-seven percent of surveyed students in the Emirates said they thought their country’s education system is superior to Western systems. But only 43 and 42 percent in Qatar and Kuwait, respectively, felt the same. Students in Saudi Arabia appear to doubt their education system’s competitiveness the most; only 25 percent said their system is better. Large majorities in each country want to see more education reform, including 76 percent of students in Kuwait, 81 percent in the Emirates and 87 percent in Qatar. Those in Saudi Arabia have the least confidence in their education, with 94 percent saying it needs reform.

According to the report, the number of the students in the Gulf is expected to grow from 9.5 million to an estimated 11.3 million in 2020. A Booz & Co. researcher and report co-author, Mounira Jamjoom, said in a phone interview that while educational improvements have been made in Gulf countries, schools are still not preparing students properly. “What is being taught in many schools – and not necessarily in terms of academics, but in terms of skills – is creating what is known as ‘a mismatch’ with the requirements of a 21st century workforce.” She said schools are not teaching skills such as communication, critical thinking, logical thinking, and team work, which are key for succeeding in an increasingly competitive environment. “For example, younger generations like to work in teams and this is not something that is reflected in a lot of the traditional schooling methods.”

The Booz & Co. report cites the main reasons for this mismatch of skills, which include unchallenging courses and a lack of qualified teachers, particularly those knowledgeable in math and science. The reasons also include outdated teaching methods, such as relying heavily on textbooks and lecturing rather than using new technologies.

Qatari Nasser Al Naama, 25, can relate. He said that his public high-school education did a poor job preparing him for university, let alone a career. His education came to the test when he was accepted into the University of Sydney’s foundation program for international students. In his Qatari high school, Al Naama said that they didn’t learn the necessary and basic skills that would have helped him in college. “My high school emphasized rote memorization. That’s why throughout the academic year we didn’t really study except before exams. We just had to memorize whatever was in the textbooks.”

In Sydney, he couldn’t cope with a different style of education. Even basic habits like going to class on time, taking notes, critical thinking and time management were difficult for him. “I just didn’t know how to do it,” he said. The foundation course didn’t work out well for Al Naama, “I couldn’t handle the stress and the responsibility. So I came back, I didn’t finish.” After exploring different study options and working at a local bank, Al Naama eventually applied to Virginia Commonwealth University in Qatar, where he is now a senior studying painting and printmaking.

Most students surveyed in the Booz & Co. report said they plan to attend university and believe employment security is essential for their well-being. But they say they are not getting proper academic and career guidance from school officials, like how to apply to universities and what courses to take to prepare for certain careers. Instead, many students seek advice from family members and friends who are as “uninformed as the students” about career options, according to the report. Most students end up picking the “most obvious, safest career paths,” typically joining the military or working for a government ministry.

Roughly 43 percent of public-school students interviewed said they planned to work for the public sector, compared to 29 percent of private-school and 20 percent of international-school students. This choice is probably because public-school children typically come from less affluent backgrounds and receive the worst career guidance, the report’s authors surmise. A third of all students expressed interest in working for a private multinational corporation. But only 11 percent of respondents said they are interested in working for a local private company. Just 14 percent of men and 9 percent of women are interested in becoming entrepreneurs.

The low number of students aspiring to work for private companies or start their own businesses has been an ongoing problem for many Gulf countries. Because of the wealth from oil and gas reserves, most have been able to offer their nationals high-paying public sector jobs that require minimal effort and short work hours. But Gulf governments acknowledge their oil will not last forever and they will not be able to sustain their large and well-paid public workforce. As such, they have been trying to diversify and transform their carbon-based economies to knowledge-based ones. But it appears secondary schools and the students in them have not gotten on board yet.

“According to our study, a third of GCC students still prefer to work in public sector jobs. So they feel there is a secure job for them when they graduate although that’s not necessarily the case. Better education for the labor force and about the labor force is critical,” Jamjoom said. “Students need to know what constitutes a healthy workforce, about economic development in their country, and what options they have when they graduate.”

Unemployment rates among the Gulf’s youth are rising. Booz & Co. studies show 22 percent and 31 percent of 25-29 year olds in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, respectively, were unemployed in 2010. Among 20-24 year olds, the numbers rise to 40 percent in Qatar and 48 percent in Saudi Arabia without jobs. Governments have responded by investing in vocational schools and training programs. Booz & Co. reports that Saudi Arabia’s budget for technical and vocational training is set to rise by 41.6 percent from 2010 to 2014. Likewise, as part of its development strategy, Qatar has pledged to increase the number of technical streams and institutes. However, interest in these programs remains low. Only nine percent of the survey respondents said they planned to obtain a technical degree.

Higher-education institutions appear to be doing better preparing students for private employment. Qatar University, for example, boasts several industry chairs and advisory boards, including ones on business, mass communication, engineering and education, to ensure professors are aware of the ongoing challenges in these fields. Internships are also a requirement for many of the university programs. The American University of Sharjah, which offers programs in engineering, architecture and design, and business and management, employs a similar strategy. Ali Shuhaimy, vice chancellor for enrollment management at the university, explained that part of the institution’s strategic plan was to directly engage people outside the university. “We have advisory boards at our colleges to get advice from professionals in the industry and guidance to know where we should focus our energies and exactly what we can do as an institution to be part of the overall long-term development of the country.”

Gulf universities are also picking up the slack for high schools when it comes to preparing students for higher education. Many offer foundation programs for students who can’t meet the English, science and math requirements when they apply the first time around. In Doha, Qataris unwilling to or incapable of studying for a four-year degree right away have the opportunity to study at the Community College of Qatar, where they can earn associate degrees in a variety of subjects. Many often enroll at the community college first because they know they are not ready to apply to English-speaking universities.

Many universities also run high-school programs that help students boost basic critical thinking skills. Texas A&M University at Qatar offers several programs that help students prepare for the SAT and ACT exams, learn test-taking skills and even review basic English and math concepts. The university also offers workshops for high school instructors who want to teach math more effectively.
Texas A&M’s attempts at improving teaching seem all the more necessary in light of the Booz & Co. Students’ Voices survey. In what the report’s authors call one of the study’s more “distressing findings,” students in Qatar and Saudi Arabia are more likely to question the competence of their secondary-education teachers, especially in public schools, than students in the other surveyed countries.. Only 37 percent of respondents in Qatar think their teachers fully understand the course materials. Likewise, only 43 percent of students in Saudi Arabia think their teachers are well trained. One high school Emirati boy highlighted in the report said “My physics teacher usually doesn’t know how to solve the equation and then he asks you to do it as homework.” In addition, less than half the students in each country surveyed, with the exception of the Emirates, said their teachers show genuine interest in their academic advancement.

This survey result may not come as a surprise for 21-year-old Noor Khalifa Al-Tamimi. A sophomore at Northwestern University in Qatar located in Qatar Foundation’s Education City campus, she says her independent (public) high school failed to educate her about her university and career options until it was almost too late. “I remember we had a university fair once and all Education City universities were present at that time,” she said in an email. “It was too late though, I was already in grade 12 and graduating soon. Before that, I didn’t know Education City existed.” If she had been introduced to Education City earlier, where English is generally the language of instruction, she might have had more time to improve her language skills. Instead, she went to Qatar University for a year before enrolling in Qatar Foundation’s Academic Bridge Program, a gateway program that helps students gain admittance to English-speaking universities. When asked what her high school did right, Al Tamimi said, “nothing”. She said that most of her high school friends are either failing their foundation program in Qatar University or are married housewives. Only her determination got her into Northwestern, she says.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fifty-seven percent of surveyed students in the Emirates said they thought their country’s education system is superior to Western systems.

That was worth a chuckle. A rather silly question really when unless they had attended both systems, on what are they basing their opinion other than wishful thinking. Especially when one looks at the fact that the national education systems of the Gulf don't manage to prepare their students for either university or the workplace.

The fact that a young Qatari female didn't even know about Education City until she was a senior is certainly telling. It is not as though it is a giant country or even city... apparently she didn't read a local newspaper in any language or watch local TV. ...especially as she seemed to be an ambitious young woman who needed that information.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Students say Gulf education needs improvement Reply with quote

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Students in Saudi Arabia appear to doubt their education system’s competitiveness the most; only 25 percent said their system is better.


Unbelieveable that they can even think Saudi education is BETTER than the West...but they bring it upon themselves.

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She said schools are not teaching skills such as communication, critical thinking, logical thinking, and team work, which are key for succeeding in an increasingly competitive environment.


Because the students will NEVER do such things. They'd rather pay others to do it for them, they're that lazy.

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The Booz & Co. report cites the main reasons for this mismatch of skills, which include unchallenging courses and a lack of qualified teachers, particularly those knowledgeable in math and science. The reasons also include outdated teaching methods, such as relying heavily on textbooks and lecturing rather than using new technologies.


Most students wouldn't be able to hack more challenging courses to begin with!

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“My high school emphasized rote memorization. That’s why throughout the academic year we didn’t really study except before exams. We just had to memorize whatever was in the textbooks.”


The Arabic way of studying - just memorize as much as you can and pray that you get good marks...pathetic

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In Sydney, he couldn’t cope with a different style of education. Even basic habits like going to class on time, taking notes, critical thinking and time management were difficult for him. “I just didn’t know how to do it,” he said. The foundation course didn’t work out well for Al Naama, “I couldn’t handle the stress and the responsibility. So I came back, I didn’t finish.” After exploring different study options and working at a local bank, Al Naama eventually applied to Virginia Commonwealth University in Qatar, where he is now a senior studying painting and printmaking.


He could have done research on life in Australia before going. Or just suck it up and get on with it. Those are the kind of things that should be expected globally anyway!

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Most students surveyed in the Booz & Co. report said they plan to attend university and believe employment security is essential for their well-being. But they say they are not getting proper academic and career guidance from school officials, like how to apply to universities and what courses to take to prepare for certain careers. Instead, many students seek advice from family members and friends who are as “uninformed as the students” about career options, according to the report. Most students end up picking the “most obvious, safest career paths,” typically joining the military or working for a government ministry.


It's not even safe career paths, it's pure bone idleness. I've never imagined a military to be the way the Saudi military is. They wouldn't stand a chance in Sandhurst!

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The low number of students aspiring to work for private companies or start their own businesses has been an ongoing problem for many Gulf countries. Because of the wealth from oil and gas reserves, most have been able to offer their nationals high-paying public sector jobs that require minimal effort and short work hours.

“According to our study, a third of GCC students still prefer to work in public sector jobs.


Well what a bleedin' surprise! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes and they wonder why they are failing in education?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Students say Gulf education needs improvement Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
“What is being taught in many schools – and not necessarily in terms of academics, but in terms of skills – is creating what is known as ‘a mismatch’ with the requirements of a 21st century workforce.” She said schools are not teaching skills such as communication, critical thinking, logical thinking, and teamwork, which are key for succeeding in an increasingly competitive environment.


Spending billions on tertiary education and seemingly nothing on primary and secondary certainly has caused quite a mismatch. I wonder who benefits from having millions unable to apply logic and critical thinking?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Students say Gulf education needs improvement Reply with quote

In the heat of the moment wrote:


Spending billions on tertiary education and seemingly nothing on primary and secondary certainly has caused quite a mismatch. I wonder who benefits from having millions unable to apply logic and critical thinking?


This
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamajorba wrote:
Unbelieveable that they can even think Saudi education is BETTER than the West...but they bring it upon themselves.

Because the students will NEVER do such things. They'd rather pay others to do it for them, they're that lazy.

Most students wouldn't be able to hack more challenging courses to begin with!

The Arabic way of studying - just memorize as much as you can and pray that you get good marks...pathetic

He could have done research on life in Australia before going. Or just suck it up and get on with it. Those are the kind of things that should be expected globally anyway!

Well what a bleedin' surprise! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes and they wonder why they are failing in education?

Your generalization that GCC university students are unmotivated, incompetent, that they should suck it up... is both ethnocentric and lazy thinking. Besides, your personal experience entailed teaching Saudi soldiers and not university foundation year students. Those stereotypes certainly don't describe the 18-20 year-old university students I taught in Saudi Arabia, who were also taking coursework in physics, chemistry, statistics, and calculus in English while attending my class.

You completely missed the point of the article. You focused on the students' supposed short comings rather than their ability to overcome issues with their countries' public k-12 and higher ed systems (e.g., prevalence of rote learning, the absence of mentorship, zero career/academic guidance, lack of study skills and soft skills training, no internship opportunities, etc.). (Frankly, my high school in the US didn't prepare us well for college life and studies; the only such course offered during our senior year was on note taking, which was far from ideal.) Plus, you contend that those who pursue a BA, MA, or doctoral degree, whether in country or in the West, are lazy and not being up for a challenge. That thinking defies simple logic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK has universities as old as dirt; the US has higher ed institutions dating back to the mid-17th century. There have been centuries of reforms and growth at both the formative and tertiary educational levels. Yet educational systems in the Gulf have barely begun hitting their growing pains, especially given when their first universities were established:
    King Saud University in KSA - 1957
    Kuwait University - 1966
    Gulf Polytechnic in Bahrain - 1968
    Qatar University - 1973
    UAE University - 1976
    Sultan Qaboos University in Oman - 1986
There have been reforms, but change comes slowly for some GCC countries, while others have made bigger strides.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Those stereotypes certainly don't describe the 18-20 year-old university students I taught in Saudi Arabia


So you had a better time than me. Great. Wonderful. Smashing.

We are all entitled to our own opinions.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is, of course, a difference between an opinion that is an all-encompassing generalization and one that refers only to one's personal experience.

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