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Maitoshi
Joined: 04 May 2014 Posts: 718 Location: 何処でも
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:35 am Post subject: |
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The important thing to remember with job postings is that they list the qualifications of an IDEAL candidate. Many times a posting doesn't attract qualified candidates for a number of reasons (comparatively low remuneration, for one) and the institution must choose from among the applicants it has. You may find yourself chosen, even if you don't meet the "minimum" criteria. If you are determined, apply for as many postings as you can find. You may surprise yourself. |
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jkozera
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 90
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:55 am Post subject: Re: Do you think I could do this? |
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The whole "you NEED a masters and publications to work at a uni!" seems to come from nicenice and MAteacher. I am sure you can find work with a BA and the right experience (and connections)
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I interviewed at Westgate and I think that I will receive an offer. The pay is only 2,750,000 yen/year, so of course I would seek another position after working there because I have heavy student loan debt.
Do you think while I'm out there, I could apply for university positions beginning in April 2016 (e.g., from JACET). And if hired at one of those institutions then I would make a real salary in the 5 million yen area. Does this seem far-fetched or something that could actually happen? Basically, I go to Westgate to get my foot in the door, then apply for real teaching positions afterwards. |
Westgate wouldnt really be university experience I think.
Also the publications thing seems a common meme, although Ive been invited to apply to 2 universities but only have an unrelated Master's and dont have any publications. Im not the expert at all but this might indicate it isnt a hard rule |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Do you think I could do this? |
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jkozera wrote: |
The whole "you NEED a masters and publications to work at a uni!" seems to come from nicenice and MAteacher. I am sure you can find work with a BA and the right experience (and connections) |
The publications are not necessary for some university jobs (though they are required for most of the 'good' ones), but the MA is definitely required for full-time work. There are enough people out there with an MA in TESOL that universities don't need to take anything less. It's still possible in less-desirable areas to get part-time university work with just a BA, but not full-time (in more desirable places, universities require a master's for part-time work). Most universities have it as a matter of university-wide policy that full-time faculty must have at least a master's.
It's all about supply and demand. |
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RM1983
Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 360
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Maitoshi wrote: |
The important thing to remember with job postings is that they list the qualifications of an IDEAL candidate. Many times a posting doesn't attract qualified candidates for a number of reasons (comparatively low remuneration, for one) and the institution must choose from among the applicants it has. You may find yourself chosen, even if you don't meet the "minimum" criteria. If you are determined, apply for as many postings as you can find. You may surprise yourself. |
Yeah that is what I have heard. Although personally, living pretty much in Tokyo I think I'd need a rather large slice of luck.
I was surprised because I thought these jobs were like gold dust, but it seems some need to get the word out?
Also it looks as if uni jobs are turning into a merry-go-round because of the short-term contracts.
At a more paranoid time I might have wondered if there was some sort of conspiracy going on.
As it is, I've decided to apply to lots of places, sort of on the off chance but not expecting much because I'm not quite there with the qualifications etc. Still can try though I suppose. Uni jobs aside, it does seem that for every person stuck in eikaiwa there is someone else doing relatively well. |
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currentaffairs
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 828
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with most of the above posts. Employers can be especially picky in the Tokyo area because of the number of well qualified peeps around. I know of a guy with a PhD in a language/literature related field who has been doing part-time university teaching for around 10 years. His qualifications are not explicitly related to English teaching.
On the other hand, if you went to Nagoya or Sendai you could probably get work at universities with unrelated MAs and maybe one questionable publication.. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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currentaffairs wrote: |
On the other hand, if you went to Nagoya or Sendai you could probably get work at universities with unrelated MAs and maybe one questionable publication.. |
I think it also depends on how unrelated it is. I know someone who was hired full-time at a university in a rural area with an M.Ed. in early childhood education, a few years of ALT experience in Japan, no publications, and a couple presentations. So, somewhat unrelated academic qualifications, though she teaches in a program where many students will be elementary or junior high school teachers. I think in Sendai or Nagoya, one would still need a relevant MA, though (for smaller universities) possibly not the publications. Then again, there are more and more people who have higher qualifications, more publications, and more experience, so universities can get pickier. |
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