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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:38 am Post subject: How Do Certifications Work from Each Westernized Country? |
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Hi Everyone,
I was curious as to what backgrounds, certification process, etc. is needed from each country and the best strategy to get it.
1. I know in the US, each state has a certification coursework, followed by some paper and pencil exams, followed by some observed teaching.
However, it varies from state to state.
The best strategy to become a teacher in the US is to get one in a tough state (like California) and get reciprocity if needed.
2. For the UK, I believe it's nine months of coursework.
3. What about the rest of the countries, like Australia, South Africa, etc.?
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Complete a B.Ed and be accepted to the provincial teacher's college (governing body for teachers, not a training facility)
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complete a post grad certification in education at your local uni and get accepted to the provincial teacher's college.
eg:
https://www.bcteacherregulation.ca/Teacher/BecomingATeacherOverview.aspx
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:39 am Post subject: |
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What's a westernized country, as used in the thread title? |
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Sashadroogie wrote: |
What's a westernized country, as used in the thread title? |
China is west of Korea.
Korea is west of Japan.
Afghanistan is west of both of those and all 4 are west of the USA.
The US is far to the east of Asia; to the point of being a day behind.
Does that make the US the "Far East" and California the Middle East and Greece the "West"?
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Westernization is a cultural process, though. Not a description of geographical location. Japanese businessmen wear European suits, not traditional garb, and so are described as 'westernized'. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Clearly the OP meant western not westernized. Though, as Suphan pointed out, even that term is a bit misleading as "western" countries are not always found in the west. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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suphanburi wrote: |
Does that make the US the "Far East" and California the Middle East and Greece the "West"? |
My head is spinning...  |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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We refer to western European countries as 'western' and degrees from their universities as 'western'.
I also don't understand certification in this context. Does the OP mean 'teaching licensure'?? His/her examples of US and UK don't seem related to ESL/EFL. |
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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pardon me, perhaps I was misleading.
I meant, I'd seriously like to consider get certified and look for general programs. Even though I'm American, if I want to teach abroad, programs meant for those in the UK, Australia, etc. might work just as well.
However, I'd like to see a comparative perspective. Could you guys give me insight?
1. What certification process does the UK, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand or any "gold standard" country use?
2. How long do they take, where to apply, etc.? |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Are you talking licensure for content teachers???
Or ESL/EFL certification? |
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kpjf

Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 385
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I was doing well at an international school in China; but, there are rumors it will shut down.
I still will receive a great letter of reference, my students liked me, and I saved money. But, I could use a new position.
I never liked ESL. My degree was in history and I am a pretty good history/social studies teacher.
Can anyone recommend places to look for a good recruiter?
Even though I don't value my Ivy League education any more than another school, it seems to sell well in status conscious populations (like China and Korea). I also can offer a lot of good admissions success, as I've taken ten students on over the years, each has gotten into universities of their choice. |
Not sure why you have started a new thread for all of this when you already have this one opened
A recruiter for what exactly? From what I understand you don't have a teaching license so how can you teach history? Unless it's with a dodgy international school. If it's in China for instance, I guess you're best asking on that forum, or in Asia in general, maybe it's best trying the general Asia forum.
For what it is worth, in the UK you'll need to come and do an interview in person, which I'd gather is not possible in your case. Also, it's not just a case of apply and be accepted, there are a lot of hoops to jump through and you have a lot of competitors to beat. Why don't you just investigate how to become licensed in your country? I don't think that information is best found here. |
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esl_prof

Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 2006 Location: peyi kote solèy frèt
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
1. What certification process does the UK, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand or any "gold standard" country use? |
Even more misleading. Though I think most of us know what you're trying to say.
You may want to post inquiries directly to the forums of the countries where you are interested in studying. And, as Spiral suggested, be specific regarding the type of certification you want (e.g., ESL, physics, math, etc.) and what age group you want to teach (e.g., ECE, primary, secondary). Even within a given country, the requirements will vary depending on age group, subject area and, quite possibly, from state-to-state or province-to-province in instances where there is no single national education system. |
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Jultime
Joined: 25 Jun 2014 Posts: 113 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="kpjf"]
ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
Hi Everyone,
I was doing well at an international school in China; but, there are rumors it will shut down.
I still will receive a great letter of reference, my students liked me, and I saved money. But, I could use a new position.
I never liked ESL. My degree was in history and I am a pretty good history/social studies teacher.
Can anyone recommend places to look for a good recruiter?
Even though I don't value my Ivy League education any more than another school, it seems to sell well in status conscious populations (like China and Korea). I also can offer a lot of good admissions success, as I've taken ten students on over the years, each has gotten into universities of their choice. |
After reading this thread I'm still confused, I can see see why you didn't like teaching ESL. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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The UK has no unitary system
NI
Scotland
Wales and
England
have separate paths to teacher certification
Teaching in mainstream secondary schools is very stressful. Many teachers leave after a few years. |
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suphanburi
Joined: 20 Mar 2014 Posts: 916
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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If the OP is looking for a cheap, easy, "quick fix" leading to teacher licensure then the US is the best bet.
There are numerous programs and the one from Florida (teacher ready) or Teach-now are probably the easiest.
In both cases they take about 9 months and cost US$6k.
Gaining licensure varies by country and indeed from region to region within a country.
You will however find many things in common:
a minimum of an undergrad before admission.
1 year of coursework (18-30 credit hours).
300-400 hours of practicum (typically 1-2 semesters as a student teacher).
background checks
and they MAY include a citizenship/legal resident requirement for licensure
Those in the US usually have something like the PRAXIS tests that you need to complete but some of the other requirements are usually easier or they may forgo the practicum component.
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