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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
I've just finished my MA TESOL, and am looking for options in 2016.


If you're a U.S. citizen, you should definitely consider (1) the U.S. State Department Teaching Fellows Program (for placement in foreign universities), which pays upwards towards 30,000+ per year plus benefits, RT transportation, and housing assistance.

It is, of course, competitive, but it sounds like you've got some time to pull together a strong application.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another option would be the Middle East. You could definitely get work in Saudi Arabia or UAE at colleges or universities. You could work for a couple of years and then head to South America with some money behind you.

Saudi Arabia is a possibility as long as the MA TESOL didn't include any online coursework. The UAE, however, will be tough; the government is phasing out its university foundation English programs in 3 years, which has already impacted hiring at the major public universities. Additionally, UAE employers expect to see a minimum of 3 years' university-level teaching gained post-MA. But even that may not be enough to compete for the limited university opportunities.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should think about Mexico. Check out threads on university teaching in the Mexico sub forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
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Another option would be the Middle East. You could definitely get work in Saudi Arabia or UAE at colleges or universities. You could work for a couple of years and then head to South America with some money behind you.

Saudi Arabia is a possibility as long as the MA TESOL didn't include any online coursework. The UAE, however, will be tough; the government is phasing out its university foundation English programs in 3 years, which has already impacted hiring at the major public universities. Additionally, UAE employers expect to see a minimum of 3 years' university-level teaching gained post-MA. But even that may not be enough to compete for the limited university opportunities.


Yes, but there are many, many opportunities out there. The major recruiters in Saudi Arabia like EdEx, ICEAT or Hussan will employ you without an MA for starters. You would be working at a university or college. Then, we have the explosion of vocational colleges in Saudi which is only going to grow in the next few years with over 1 billion pounds invested with the UK college providers alone..

I don't know so much about UAE but if you start at the bottom you can work your way up almost anywhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

currentaffairs wrote:
I don't know so much about UAE but if you start at the bottom you can work your way up almost anywhere.

Not the UAE. It's highly competitive, so employers can afford to be picky. Plus, the largest employers of EFL teachers in the country are the government universities that are having their English programs cut in 2018 --- two of them no longer openly recruit. Anyway, KSA is a better shot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

Regarding the Fellow's Program, unfortunately I am not the right nationality. Mexico is a place that I have been considering, and will look more into it. With Saudi Arabia: I did what is called 'blended learning', which is a mix of in class lectures, and online studying. Someone in my program did manage to get a job in Saudi Arabia through this degree - while they did not accept online MAs, blended learning wasn't an issue.

Many things to consider. I'll likely try my hand at a Japanese uni before making a move abroad. I'm really enjoying my current location in Japan, but unfortunately the pay is unremarkable (especially with the weak Yen), and the job is fairly flat.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll likely try my hand at a Japanese uni before making a move abroad. I'm really enjoying my current location in Japan, but unfortunately the pay is unremarkable (especially with the weak Yen), and the job is fairly flat.


I think this is a good plan. Any type of university work will help you as it gives you experience and looks good on your CV. Are you looking at all the right job sites like JREC, ohayosensei and JALT? I actually got my first university job in Japan after posting on jobsinjapan and listing my experience/quals/location. A teacher went sick at the local university and I got my foot in the door...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition, you might try sending a PM to rtm over on the Japan forums as he usually has pretty concrete suggestions for doing university job searches in Japan. In fact, you might even just start by doing a search for his old posts, which are generally quite informative.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both. I will check those websites for job postings. I'm contractually obliged until mid-March, which seems to time well with the April start day. Unfortunately, I will miss out on any fall start dates. I recall a sense of "good luck....even with the MA" when applying for unis, but perhaps I just fixated on the (potentially) negative posts.

I'll look for rtm's posts.
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