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Safety for American Teachers in Abu Dhabi
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
I heard that the attacker is an English teacher, so knew the victim. Is that true?

No such information has been reported. Best to periodically check the UAE news online for updated info.


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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
mitsui wrote:
I heard that the attacker is an English teacher, so knew the victim. Is that true?

No such information been reported. Best to periodically check the UAE news online for updated info.

Since I can read and speak Arabic, here is a video from the Arabic CNN, which shows the Emarati woman in a black Abaya and Niqab during her action in the mall. Also, the video shows how the police caught the Emirati woman in her house.
http://arabic.cnn.com/videos/2014/12/04/me-041214-uae-us-death

As I wrote in the forum of the Magic Kingdom, always keep low profile and watch your back.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are currently discussing it on NPR and mentioned that the Emirati woman is of Yemeni origin and travels back and forth between the two countries.

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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Safety for American Teachers in Abu Dhabi - etc. Reply with quote

Below is a comprehensive report of the A.D. stabbing with visuals you may have seen in the A.D. surveillance video (with background music from the Dark Knight). On the bottom right of the link you will see the breaking news about the failed rescue attempt of photojournalist, Luke Somers in Yemen who died during the mission along with another unidentified ex-pat. Very sad and disturbing times for all and our sympathy to the loved ones of those who met their premature demise in such a remorseless, primitive, and barbaric manner.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2861660/Woman-arrested-murder-American-mother-inside-Abu-Dhabi-mall-not-lone-wolf-house-base-operations-terror-plan.html
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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest news is that the woman who killed American committed 'personal terrorist act':

CNN -- A woman who allegedly stabbed a U.S. teacher at a mall in the United Arab Emirates committed a "personal terrorist act," an official told the nation's official news agency.

The official said she logged on to "terrorist websites" recently, according to the WAM news agency.

The suspect, who has not been identified, is accused of killing 47-year-old American teacher Ibolya Ryan last week in the restroom of an upscale mall in Abu Dhabi. The accused is a female Emirati national of Yemeni descent, the UAE's Interior Ministry said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/08/world/meast/uae-us-mall-killing/

The burden weighs heavily on the ex-husband of Ibolya, who has the power to commute the death sentence and grant a pardon if the suspect is found guilty and given capital punishment.

I think the best option for the ex-husband is to ask for 'blood money' (Dhs 200,000 - equivalent of $54000) if the suspect is found guilty.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least it wasn't an impersonal terrorist act. Rolling Eyes

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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the husband accepts the blood money (which might be helpful for the children), does she go free or does it become life in prison?

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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
If the husband accepts the blood money (which might be helpful for the children), does she go free or does it become life in prison?

VS

Well, she will not go free.
She is accused of an attempt to kill another American doctor (originally from Egypt). I think she will spend sometime in the black box waiting for her final fate from the grand judge of Abu Dhabi.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently live here in Sharjah, two years, and was at that area on National Day when this happened. I am also a Muslim.

She will go down hard because she embarrassed the country on its biggest day with this crime. If you see her villa, she comes from big money here. That is probably a 20 million AED plus compound in Abu Dhabi and a high end Emirati area. There has been and still are Muslim Brotherhood in the UAE that the government has and is still trying to eliminate.

Most Egyptians now are not getting their visas renewed due to failing the security background check, otherwise an excuse. At my school we stay away from Egyptians who need an employment visa because immigration probably won't issue a visa.

The reason why is the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt pushed its supporters to attend universities, get educated, and get into various government positions in order to take over from within. This means many teachers are suspected of being sympathetic to the MB. This I was told by several Egyptian teachers and I had several Egyptian teachers lose their residency visa, revoked, and were deported.
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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rdobbs98 wrote:
If you see her villa, she comes from big money here. That is probably a 20 million AED plus compound in Abu Dhabi and a high end Emirati area. There has been and still are Muslim Brotherhood in the UAE that the government has and is still trying to eliminate.

Is the woman a member of the Brotherhood, or a member of the Yemeni branch of Khurasan?

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The reason why is the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt pushed its supporters to attend universities, get educated, and get into various government positions in order to take over from within.

This is baseless.
The Muslim Brotherhood did not take over from within, they were democratically elected to the parliament, and the president Morsi also was democratically elected to be the President of Egypt. His minister of defence, General El-Sessi, in collaboration with the military junta, orchestrated the military coup against an elected president. And the UAE and the Magic Kingdom do no want to see a success for the Arab spring in Egypt.


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This means many teachers are suspected of being sympathetic to the MB. This I was told by several Egyptian teachers and I had several Egyptian teachers lose their residency visa, revoked, and were deported.

This is Soviet style of repression of innocent people.
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oilers



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

every forum topic i visit sees the same posters, like some chat cafe is being held amongst chums, no wonder dave's is sinking into irrelevancy...

the comments in this one show an almost infantile grip on the reality of living in a state where there are no democratic rights and one just hopes they can cash out with the money bucket relatively full before running afoul of the kangaroo court legal system, all who reside here are only one middle finger accusation, real or baseless, away from ruin and jail time fpllowed by deportation, so any comments on "repression" and the like are nowhere near living in reality in THIS part of the world...HA

notice the absolute propaganda in the papers extolling how 'safe' this place is, and that it was not a 'lone wolf' assassination, what am i, 'ghabi' (idiot in arabic) ?

expect the harshest sentence possible, then commuted without publicity later since she is a local, as per usual...
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Geronimo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How safe is the U.A.E. these days?

This graphic illustrates relative homicide rates in a selcetion of countries for 2012...
http://www.thenational.ae/uae/graphic-international-homicide-rates-in-2012

"According to the Global Study on Homicide, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), the homicide rate in the UAE in 2012 was 2.6 per 100,000. The average global homicide rate for that period was 6.2 per 100,000 population."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates

However, not everyone is ready to accept the above statistics!
http://www.thenational.ae/uae/uae-authorities-dispute-un-statistics-that-uae-has-highest-murder-rate-in-gcc

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Geronimo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some 7 months after the Reem Island murder, the culprit has been sentenced to death.

These article in "The National" provide the answers to several of the questions raised earlier in this thread...

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/courts/new-bride-to-militant-killer-10-years-that-led-to-murder-on-reem-island and...

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/courts/death-sentence-for-reem-island-killer

It seems that a British mother had a narrow escape.
"One mother from Britain who came in did not know how close she came to death. Al Hashemi thought of killing her,
but changed her mind because the woman had a baby with her.
"


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/crime/reem-island-killer-executed-by-firing-squad-first-execution-under-counter-terror-law-1.1549261
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