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20 Years After- I'm Outta Here! :D
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Vince



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mitsui wrote:
As I may be returning to the US next year, Vince, what don't you like?

My reasons might not apply to the situation you'd have in the US. It has to do with my wife's devolution since being here, the influence of mainstream US culture's vulgarity on my son, and my general boredom.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You never know.
What state are you living in?

If your wife doesn't have any Japanese friends, that could be an issue.
I am looking at different states, and think the west coast could be a better fit, but getting work is the issue.
Hawaii would be nice but it is expensive.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, reading through this thread, I was wondering about foreign women in Japan. I wonder if a guy who's been here a long time and nearly fluent (or is fluent) will have a more difficult time than a woman. It just really sounds like it based on this..or maybe women don't post as often...
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Age discrimination is real. It tends to affect male teachers,
and it is not illegal in this country.
If you are between jobs after the age of 40 you could be having a tough time.

Being stuck in dead-end jobs is just a disincentive in learning Japanese.
In fact the people who seem most motivated are from Asian countries like China and Vietnnam, since they see living in Japan as an improvement.

Most teachers here are male.
To get female teachers is a challenge. Most don't last longer than five years, if that.
Considering how sexist the society is, can't say I blame them.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So either women don't stick around long enough to get to that point, or they just don't post on forums like this much. Too bad...would like to hear of their experiences too...

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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep. In fact I replaced a Canadian female who left after 5 years.

Where I used to work in Tokyo, there were several females, mostly American. To get them to come to Japan they had to give them free housing.
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kpjf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ssjup81 wrote:
So either women don't stick around long enough to get to that point, or they just don't post on forums like this much. Too bad...would like to hear of their experiences too...


TokyoLiz seems to be doing quite well for herself (from what she writes), but hasn't limited herself to TEFL I think. Maybe you could drop her a PM?
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Vince



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mitsui wrote:
You never know.
What state are you living in?

If your wife doesn't have any Japanese friends, that could be an issue.
I am looking at different states, and think the west coast could be a better fit, but getting work is the issue.
Hawaii would be nice but it is expensive.

I'm in PA. There are some Japanese in the area, but that doesn't seem to be a priority for my wife. She's more into Japanese amenities than a Japanese social scene.

I've thought about moving to HI. I think all three of us would like it. Unfortunately, my online research, as well as the input of a couple of friends who lived there, left me with serious doubts. Housing in particular is ridiculously expensive. Unless you have a very unique and in-demand skill set, you definitely don't want to go there without a job in hand.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Expensive, yes.
People can pay 2,000 bucks for an apartment.
My wife would do better than I since she wants to work in translation and interpreting.
I want to teach and there is no air conditioning in public schools, and getting certified takes time.
Getting a job at a university or community college is harder.

Probably we will just move to the mainland.
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