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Beijing just passed a visa change apparently...
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Markness



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
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Location: Chengdu

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deats wrote:
Just out of interest, why are you leaving Chengdu? It sounded like you had a very nice thing going on there. Surely not for the air quality Shocked


Oh, sorry if I wrote sounding like I am leaving Chengdu. I am definitely not leaving this city anytime soon. I have a pretty stellar job and the missus and I are thinking of opening up a kindergarten. I'm a lifer like too many others Embarassed Crying or Very sad
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Deats



Joined: 02 Jan 2015
Posts: 503

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to be ashamed of there mate. There are far worse jobs and places to live in the world. Anyone who wants to belittle you would only be doing in from jealousy. If you are happy then carry on!

Good luck with the kindergarten btw. I'd love to know from someone who has first hand started up their own school.
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Quite



Joined: 25 Mar 2015
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another ball-busting requirement to keep teachers from coming to China. SO many fucking hoops to jump through. Every year they add some ridiculous requirement. They are too cheap to fax a verification form to your university to verify your degree so they pass the burden on to us. Assholes!
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Mdawg45



Joined: 12 Jul 2015
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I emailed the consulate in SF as my boyfriend is to go in September to China and we live in WA. The recruiter is promising a Z-visa with no degree. When I emailed them about the degree they said they did not require it. Though the recruiter has also said nothing about having to go to the consulate.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



Joined: 02 Jun 2015
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Location: Since 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mdawg45 wrote:
So I emailed the consulate in SF as my boyfriend is to go in September to China and we live in WA. The recruiter is promising a Z-visa with no degree. When I emailed them about the degree they said they did not require it. Though the recruiter has also said nothing about having to go to the consulate.


Though your boyfriend wasn't told that he'd have to go to the consulate, he'll have to send a letter of invitation from the school (or Ministry of Whatever) and his passport in order to get a Z visa.
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Mdawg45



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote:
Mdawg45 wrote:
So I emailed the consulate in SF as my boyfriend is to go in September to China and we live in WA. The recruiter is promising a Z-visa with no degree. When I emailed them about the degree they said they did not require it. Though the recruiter has also said nothing about having to go to the consulate.


Though your boyfriend wasn't told that he'd have to go to the consulate, he'll have to send a letter of invitation from the school (or Ministry of Whatever) and his passport in order to get a Z visa.


So no need for him to show a degree if he has those two if I'm understanding correctly.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He will have to provide the recruiter/school with a scan of the degree to the school/recruiter who, in turn, will send it to the Ministry of Whatever who, in turn, will issue the letter of invitation to your boyfriend to send to the Chinese Consulate in his home country (which I believe is the U.S. Washington State).

The Washington, DC Chinese consulate makes no mention of sending a degree (scroll down):

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/hrsq/

However, if one has no degree or no formal secondary education (not even a TEFL certificate) he will be woefully unprepared to do much in a Chinese class room unless he is quite bright, possesses an innate ability to teach, and/or is required merely to sing songs or clap hands in class.

China is not the Land of Milk and Honey. Really. My observation is that those who arrive in China with no formal tertiary education (or at least a TEFL certificate) get the worst jobs and the lowest pay. I am sure that there are stellar exceptions for exceptional people, but they are few and far between.

Verify that the school is authorized to hire foreigners and that its prospective employees are entitled to receive a Z work visa. If your boyfriend arrives on anything but a Z visa, he'll eventually have headaches galore. (Undoubtedly, someone in the forum will chime in about obtaining a Z visa by going to the Chinese Consulate in Hong Kong, or by applying from Djibouti or Upper Ubangi, but one should be aware that those avenues have become very restrictive).
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Mdawg45



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's been working subbing after school and sports stuff for a while. He sent his TEFL in to the school and recruiter who Said it would be no prob. I asked for the business license but can't read it of course. But from what I can compare it to online it's not a business license.
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