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virginiawolfman



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:33 pm    Post subject: Vietnam Start-Up Costs Reply with quote

Hey all - long time lurker, first time poster here.

I've scrapped together a plan to teach in Vietnam using mostly information found on this site, but am still lacking in a few necessary particulars. I guess now's the time then to throw my hat in the ring and seek some advice regarding my own situation (so, forum regulars, please be gentle).

I plan to take my CELTA at the ILA in HCMC this November 16th - December 11th. After flight and course fees, I'll have roughly $1,500 dollars left to live on for the four weeks that i'm taking the course and the job hunt that will follow. In your own experience, simply, is this enough money to bring? Is it realistic to assume that I can pick something up immediately upon CELTA completion in a December job market?

Information regarding how much one brought to Vietnam TO START, and roughly how much they spent while making the transition from first landing to first paycheck would be a good addition to the forum in general, i think.

I should add that i'm a 22 yr old white male with a B.A in English.

Thanks guys,
Max
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cb400



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are cutting it too close for comfort. You might not get a job right away and only pick up part time work. I think you need to budget a minimum of $1000 a month if you are careful.

Dont forget to factor in health insurance and an exit plan if things don't work out.
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb400 wrote:
Dont forget to factor in health insurance and an exit plan if things don't work out.


Super important for any country where you plan to just show up and begin job hunting.
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ExpatLuke



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

December is a terrible time to be looking for a job in Vietnam. It's right before Tet, so most Vietnamese are trying to save money. So they won't be signing up for English courses.
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ExpatLuke



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a job lined up when I arrived. I had to pay 3 months rent plus 1 month security deposit. And I bought a motorbike. Rent can depend on a lot of things. But my total start-up cost was about $2000. I overpaid for my place because I was a newbie who didn't know any better.

I came here with about $5000 in the bank, so it wasn't a problem waiting for my first pay check.
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VietCanada



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Vietnam Start-Up Costs Reply with quote

virginiawolfman wrote:
Hey all - long time lurker, first time poster here.

I've scrapped together a plan to teach in Vietnam using mostly information found on this site, but am still lacking in a few necessary particulars. I guess now's the time then to throw my hat in the ring and seek some advice regarding my own situation (so, forum regulars, please be gentle).

I plan to take my CELTA at the ILA in HCMC this November 16th - December 11th. After flight and course fees, I'll have roughly $1,500 dollars left to live on for the four weeks that i'm taking the course and the job hunt that will follow. In your own experience, simply, is this enough money to bring? Is it realistic to assume that I can pick something up immediately upon CELTA completion in a December job market?

Information regarding how much one brought to Vietnam TO START, and roughly how much they spent while making the transition from first landing to first paycheck would be a good addition to the forum in general, i think.

I should add that i'm a 22 yr old white male with a B.A in English.

Thanks guys,
Max


If you have a BA in English you will not need a CELTA from a school a school that will pay you $18 an hour (for limited classes and a contract clause preventing you from working elsewhere in your free time) less taxes and other deductions. Pseudo international schools will pay you a decent salary around $2000 a month or more if you simply have any old TEFL cert. That could be a $180 on line multiple choice cert.

I have been offered jobs that included financial perks such as health care and a housing allowance. ILA is just a language mill. You'll net about $15 an hour and $750 to $1000 a month if they like you.

That being said, English degrees aren't exactly rare in this business.

Getting a cert to teach adults when most jobs are for teaching children is not going to be particularly helpful. It's kind of stupid to be honest.

There are schools here that offer TEFLs to teach children and they have contact hours. and other benefits.

Do a search. I believe VAIS out by the airport has such a course. They far outnumber TEFL certs to teach adults since most jobs here are for teaching children.

In this country you are defined by your how much your students like you not your certs.
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VietCanada



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

esl_prof wrote:
cb400 wrote:
Dont forget to factor in health insurance and an exit plan if things don't work out.


Super important for any country where you plan to just show up and begin job hunting.


Says the poster who has never worked in VN and so has no idea that there are schools that offer health insurance. You can also find a plan on your own. Manulife has one for example.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I plan to take my CELTA at the ILA in HCMC this November 16th - December 11th.


The other long-term teachers in Vietnam don't agree with VietCanada that a CELTA isn't applicable in Vietnam. There's another thread where this is discussed in depth and at length:-)

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=111205&start=0

Getting the CELTA is a good idea; it will help you to avoid the insecure bottom-feeder jobs.
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cb400



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow the bottom feeders really come out on these forums.

Having a back up plan is always a good idea in a foreign country, to think other wise is foolish.

Medical insurance is an option, but the stuff that most schools carry is limited to 'out-care' protection and very limited scope of coverage. In most cases you should take cash instead of a schools plan and supplement with your cash to get a plan that covers 'in-care also.

Also consider getting a motorbike license in Vietnam as the medical plans won't cover you if you don't have bike license and need to use the plan from a motorbike accident..... a good possibility in Vietnam.

I wonder if Viet thinks that 8 years of living in VN building schools for investors, managing schools and working for various schools in several different cities allows me the honour to post in this forum?
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