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[nomad soul]

[isitts]

[isitts]

[thunder_god]

Holy crap, I just checked my inbox and I'm getting flooded with recruiters asking me to either interview for positions or to apply for jobs. I wasn't aware that I had applied for any positions at all from seriousteachers. I just uploaded my resume and filled in my profile.

I'll list what I've received so far:

1.Here is a potential teaching job from an English school in Hefei city,capital of Anhui province. Monthly salary 9000-10000RMB,free apartment provided,round-trip airfare paid, contract bonus 5000RMB, medical insurance provided, 16teaching hours and five working days per week, students aged 7-14yrs old. (Never heard of this place before, and the recruitment said this to me "i should tell you a truth that most schools are not interested in the Asian face", he told me there's 8 office hours and he seemed really pushy about the job)

2. Location: WUXI (a city with fast economic growth in Jiangsu Province, 1 hour to Shanghai by fast-speed train); NANJING, the capital city of Jiangsu Province with rich historical heritage and educational development; and OTHER CITIES like RUGAO, HUAIYIN,etc.
• Primary, Middle and High Schools, Universities, top public schools in the local area
• ESL teaching, curriculum and teaching material provided
• One academic year contract
• Monday to Friday (weekends off), 18-20 teaching hours per week
Salary and Benefits:
• Negotiable
• up to 6 weeks paid holidays
• Free accommodation provided, two bedrooms apartment without sharing, luxury decoration
• Flight reimbursement
• Comprehensive Medical Insurance
• Ongoing training and development workshops
• Career development opportunities
• Free Chinese lessons
Qualifications and Requirements:
• Native English speakers
• Bachelor’s degree or above
• one or two years teaching experiences or above
• TEFL/TESOL/CELTA Certificate (120 hours) are preferential
• 23 to 55 years of age
• enthusiastic work attitude

3. Thanks for your apply. We're very interested. We’d be happy to interview you for our public school positions in Shenzhen beginning in late August. What times are you available to interview with me during Chinese business hours?

4. This is Gloria, a recruiter from Birmy Education, an English training center. I saw your job application online and I would like to contact you for further information if you do consider positions in Taizhou, Zhejiang Province and Changsha , Hunan Province China. Positions:
1. Full-time ESL teacher （positions open in Taizhou and Changsha）
2. Regular Part-time ESL teacher ( work 3 days per week, positions open both in Taizhou and Changsha)
3. Part-time teacher (from 1st July to 31th August, positions open in Taizhou and Changsha)

Job role:
Teach English to adults, teenagers and children, starting from Basic English level.
Here are the details:
1. Work 5 days per week
2. Above 9000rmb or more salary (salary is negotiable) also plus airfare and bonus
3. Work visa, health insurance, Foreign Expert Cert. and residence permit
4. 20-25 teaching hours per week

Request:
-English native speakers
- BA , BSc
-TESOL/ ESL Certificate preferred
-Toefl, IELTS experience preferred
- Experience preferred

If you are interested please send us your documents including CV(or Resume), copies of highest Degree Certificate, TEFL Certificate, passport, latest Chinese/working visa( if have) , recommendation letter and a copy of your recent photo. I look forward to hearing from you.

5. Do you have interest to teach in one public college? Please read these documents. Very appreciate for your time.
Location: Fushui, Guangxi, PR.China public college
Salary: 5500RMB/per month
Extra call back fee: 20RMB/per hour
International travel allowance: 5000RMB ( at the most )
Employer provides fee of Residence permit and limited amount of Utility
Holiday: Public Vacations

They emailed me two documents that was written in chicken scratch.

6.

7. Another recruiter asked me if I was interested in teaching in china, then when I told him what cities I was interested in (Shanghai, Suzhou, Hangzhou)

He replied back saying this "Yes， We do. Like I said from my email please tell me what is your salary range, which type of school you like to teach? I will get right position for you.

Thanks!"

The guy didn't even tell me to specify salary range in the previous email. What salary range do you guys think is appropriate? I was thinking like 13,000 +.

Are any of these cities any good? Since its going to be my first time in China, and I don't speak any mandarin at all, I would prefer a city with a large expat community so that I could feel somewhat comfortable.

[isitts]

[thunder_god]

#3 is from some organization called China International Teachers Association. Is this that company that got really bad reviews?

[nomad soul]

[thunder_god]

[nomad soul]

[thunder_god]

After reading about all of this crap, I'm getting kind of paranoid now lol. I'm kind of worried I might get scammed one way or another.

[esl_prof]

[thunder_god]

I was kind of leaning towards applying for #2 but after reading this

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=920471

I'm not so sure. Teaching on tourist visas? Missed deposits?

[esl_prof]

[Jmbf]

I still think if maximising income and savings is your goal, Hong Kong is the place you want to be. Let's crunch some numbers (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

China : Good starting salary for new teacher approx 7,000 RMB with accommodation. Living frugally, you are looking at around 5,000 RMB after taxes and monthly expenses.

That's approx USD 810 saved per month.

Hong Kong : Good starting salary for new teacher approx 20,000 HKD without accommodation. Living frugally, you are looking at around 10,000 HKD after taxes and monthly expenses.

That's approx USD 1,290 saved per month.

Added up over a year that's almost USD 5,800 extra you could save in HK vs China.

Now, please note I'm not comparing living standards. In HK the accommodation will be much smaller, general conditions more crowded etc etc although HK has other positive aspects to somewhat compensate for this (safety, better health care, uncensored internet). However, if maximising earnings is the goal, I still believe HK makes more sense.

In addition, in HK after a year or so it's reasonable to expect to be able to increase your salary to 22 - 25K (if you are any good). Teaching private students (although illegal it is common) is also a better proposition in HK, there are more students around in a concentrated area and the hourly rates are much higher.

[esl_prof]