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VietCanada
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
I'm as much of a girl as you are qualified to teach English. You may have landed a job teaching maths in English, but that is a different thing altogether.
By the way, many members of my family were/are maths teachers, so I know a thing or two about it, vicariously. Does that make me qualified to teach maths through English in Vietnam? |
Many members of my family teach, or have retired from teaching English at Canadian Universities. Two have been published and one won the Commonwealth prize for fiction.
One taught EFL in China.
My best man taught EFL all over SE Asia, earning a linguistics degree. He teaches in Canada.
Another lifelong friend is an accomplished musician with a bachelors degree in music.
Does that make me qualified to talk about EFL qualifications?
Or does it mean that mine is bigger than yours since that's more likely your point. |
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VietCanada
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| spiral78 wrote: |
| This is not a maths teachers forum, for the 5,000th time! |
It's certainly not a forum for people who have never taught in VN to mislead readers about the necessary legal and practical requirements to do so.
It's not a chat room either. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sasha, how can you argue with such success? From Spadina Ave to teaching kiddies in Vietnam, VC is clearly a resounding success in life and teaching. We should all aim so high ... Maybe I should add an online cert to my quals! |
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Sashadroogie
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No, it doesn't. The point is you are talking about totally different things. The fact remains that your EFL qualifications are decidedly shaky. Your maths degree doesn't count for language teaching. Your family's achievements count for less, just like my family's do not count.
Tell me this, though - your best man, does he regard a maths degree as the same as his linguistics degree when it comes to being qualified to teach English? Can you ask him? |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
| Sasha, how can you argue with such success? From Spadina Ave to teaching kiddies in Vietnam, VC is clearly a resounding success in life and teaching. We should all aim so high ... Maybe I should add an online cert to my quals! |
Yet another personal attack from someone who simply can't defend their position.
Not to mention the fantasy about Spadina Avenue and what I've done with my life to date. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| VietCanada wrote: |
| spiral78 wrote: |
| This is not a maths teachers forum, for the 5,000th time! |
It's certainly not a forum for people who have never taught in VN to mislead readers about the necessary legal and practical requirements to do so.
It's not a chat room either. |
OK, a dose of your own medicine - prove this nonsense about any of us misleading readers about the legalities of working in Vietnam. Show the board where we said ANYTHING about this, please.
This is a constant refrain from you. It never gets any less false with the telling. Just more specious, because its falsity has been pointed out to you dozens of times. |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
No, it doesn't. The point is you are talking about totally different things. The fact remains that your EFL qualifications are decidedly shaky. Your maths degree doesn't count for language teaching. Your family's achievements count for less, just like my family's do not count.
Tell me this, though - your best man, does he regard a maths degree as the same as his linguistics degree when it comes to being qualified to teach English? Can you ask him? |
It depends on whether your teaching Math to secondary and primary students or English grammar to university students. Here maybe this will help--------------------------
Try reading it with understanding this time.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101982
If you understand why Barney and Sesame Street work then you understand why a CELTA doesn't work (beyond doing lesson planning) in a YL setting.
If you don't then stick to big kids or adults.
A 3 year old is NOT 1/2 of a 6 year old is NOT 1/2 of a 12 year old is NOT 1/2 of a 24 year old.
Beyond that, at young to very young ages they are not learning "EFL/ESL" they are simply "learning language" through natural acquisition (their linguistic skills are not well developed in any language yet).
Grammar is the old lady who lives across town (ie: your mother's mother).
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101982
i have a celta and have taught kids.
aside from lesson planning and getting comfortable with games, the celta doesn't help a lot withkids. |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, come on you two! Everyone knows you're just trying to marginalize folks who (1) teach children, (2) teach in Vietnam, or (3) don't have a CELTA. You go girls!!! |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| VietCanada wrote: |
It depends on whether your teaching Math to secondary and primary students or English grammar to university students. Here maybe this will help--------------------------
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Really?! How might that be? The poor readers in the world would simply say your responses do not even address the previous comments even tangentially. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| But esl prof, that's surely the very definition of success in the EFL world-well, possibly at the entry level, at least. Not too sure most teachers would like to hold such a line long term... |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| esl_prof wrote: |
| Oh, come on you two! Everyone knows you're just trying to marginalize folks who (1) teach children, (2) teach in Vietnam, or (3) don't have a CELTA. You go girls!!! |
You'll have to show what was to be demonstrated by random quotations which actually prove nothing... |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| esl_prof wrote: |
| Oh, come on you two! Everyone knows you're just trying to marginalize folks who (1) teach children, (2) teach in Vietnam, or (3) don't have a CELTA. You go girls!!! |
You'll have to show what was to be demonstrated by random quotations which actually prove nothing... |
Like this?
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
--George Orwell, 1984 |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
OK, a dose of your own medicine - prove this nonsense about any of us misleading readers about the legalities of working in Vietnam. Show the board where we said ANYTHING about this, please.
This is a constant refrain from you. It never gets any less false with the telling. Just more specious, because its falsity has been pointed out to you dozens of times. |
Self-quotation! It's your friend too!
Yet still waiting for any evidence that any of us have ever said a Celta was legally needed to work in Vietnam... |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:48 am Post subject: |
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As for personal attacks, how about these?
| VietCanada wrote: |
You have lied often. Especially in your misinterpretations of what I've posted.
You are a liar.
You should not be on this board. You can be if you wish afaik but that doesn't mean that you should be.
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| VietCanada wrote: |
Get off your high horse and stop blathering about something you know nothing about. You wouldn't have to lie, obfuscate or be pathetically obtuse.
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| VietCanada wrote: |
Your lying.
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| VietCanada wrote: |
You really are a piece of work. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| VietCanada wrote: |
You really are thingy short a thingamabob aren't you?
Clueless from day one yet you soldier on. |
| VietCanada wrote: |
Are you in love with me or what? |
| VietCanada wrote: |
My God you are obtuse. |
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