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sparks
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| A rule of thumb that I follow, and I'm not fancy by any means. You should have 100 PLN to spend a day, that's after all bills are paid, you might not even spend that everyday if you just live and work and eat, but whatever is left would count for things like eating out sometimes, nights out, any junk you might want to buy. It's difficult to spend less than 50 PLN/day on food in Warsaw, that is WITHOUT eating out. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:25 am Post subject: |
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dragonpiwo
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So I'll say it explicitly. YOU GOTTA BE OUT OF YOUR TINY MIND TO THINK OF LIVING IN A EUROPEAN CAPITAL CITY ON 70 PLN A DAY. WOULD YOU LIVE IN WASHINGTON DC OR LONDON ON $18 A DAY? IF SO, HOW WOULD YOU LIVE?
ENTRY LEVEL OR NO ENTRY LEVEL.
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Most of us with real jobs in the region wouldn't have them if we hadn't started at entry level. It's a start, not a lifestyle. |
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delphian-domine
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: Re: ok |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
So I'll say it explicitly. YOU GOTTA BE OUT OF YOUR TINY MIND TO THINK OF LIVING IN A EUROPEAN CAPITAL CITY ON 70 PLN A DAY. WOULD YOU LIVE IN WASHINGTON DC OR LONDON ON $18 A DAY? IF SO, HOW WOULD YOU LIVE?
ENTRY LEVEL OR NO ENTRY LEVEL. |
Except Warsaw isn't exactly comparable to London or Washington DC when it comes to costs, is it?
It's an entry level job, and if the OP chooses to live like a normal European, he can find a room in a nice apartment for considerably less than 1000zl a month.
In time, he'll want more, and he'll decide whether he can make it in Poland or not. He might move into a different field, he might use his contacts in teaching to find something that he's always wanted to do - who knows? |
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dynow
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's an entry level job, and if the OP chooses to live like a normal European, he can find a room in a nice apartment for considerably less than 1000zl a month. |
When I came to Poland in January, 2007, I was paying 1280/month for 30 sq meters about a 15 minute walk from the rynek. A friend of mine paid 1500/month for one of comparable size just on the edge of the rynek. Neither building had an elevator. Can you rent a nice apartment within reasonable walking distance to the city center in Warsaw (where his employer most likely would be) for under 1000zl? |
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delphian-domine
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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delphiandomine wrote:
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It's an entry level job, and if the OP chooses to live like a normal European, he can find a room in a nice apartment for considerably less than 1000zl a month. |
When I came to Poland in January, 2007, I was paying 1280/month for 30 sq meters about a 15 minute walk from the rynek. A friend of mine paid 1500/month for one of comparable size just on the edge of the rynek. Neither building had an elevator. Can you rent a nice apartment within reasonable walking distance to the city center in Warsaw (where his employer most likely would be) for under 1000zl? |
A room, sure. As is normal for young people in most European cities.
Of course you can't find an apartment that's walking distance to the centre of Warsaw for that price, because the economics are totally different. There are some horrible, horrible places available for cheap in Wrocław within 15 minutes of the Rynek, but there isn't the same kind of market in Warsaw. |
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dragonpiwo
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:13 pm Post subject: erm |
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It's $18 a day in a European capital city after bills. That's shyte no matter how you dress it up and normal adults don't share a room in a house. It's what students do.
In Warsaw, you spend what you spend in a normal British city more or less. Certainly, appropriate for a northern one. The dole is about $12/day in the UK. So, you'll be working your ass off for dole money just about. I can count the number of TEFL teachers who have made it out of teaching completely, whilst in Poland, on 1 finger and that's because his folks are loaded. Everyone else left or just did privates...ahem invoiced companies from their 'school' or did a bit of writing or recording work.
You won't live like a 'normal' European'. A normal, Polish European lives at home until he or she is well into adulthood. You'll live like a minimum wage European o a zero-hours contract. That's fun.
But hey, you'll meet a lovely girl you teach and common sense will fly out the window.
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dynow
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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delph wrote:
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| A room, sure. As is normal for young people in most European cities. |
So you're quoting numbers in Warsaw based on....what normal adults would call couch surfing. |
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delphian-domine
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Remind us how many people live by themselves in NYC, for instance?
https://newyork.craigslist.org/search/roo suggests that sharing apartments is somewhat normal.
Remember, those at the bottom of their career rarely live by themse | |