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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you don't need the doctor's signature notarized. Unless it's in a hospital no doctor is going to take the time to go to a notary. All you need is the doctor's stamp, license number and signature on that form, plus he has to fill all out all of the medical information. The medical information is a lot so make sure you check out and make sure he has checked everything and filled out negative in all the blanks.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:
No, you don't need the doctor's signature notarized. Unless it's in a hospital no doctor is going to take the time to go to a notary. All you need is the doctor's stamp, license number and signature on that form, plus he has to fill all out all of the medical information. The medical information is a lot so make sure you check out and make sure he has checked everything and filled out negative in all the blanks.

If you're responding to Currentaffairs, be aware he's referring to the UK process and not the US one.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I just spoke to the Legalisation Office (C.I., UK) and they won't verify the signature unless it has been notarised.............!

Any other UKers on here?
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Melange



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to find a mobile notary to come to the clinic. I informed the doctor about my situation and he was very cooperative. Doctors can be a bit on the arrogant side when it comes to things of this nature, many think their signature is golden. But this guy was understanding. On top of that I got a photo copy of his medical license.

Now I did consult with an agent after doing all of this and he said that not every doctor has a stamp, especially in western countries, and that a copy of the physician's license along with the signed formed with the license number would have sufficed. Since I had the notary stamp, I don't know how true that is. Mind you, I am in the US as well..
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the US, the medical report does not require notarization of the doctor's signature (i.e., verification of his/her identity). Frankly, there isn't even a notary signature block on that form; it would have to be drafted on the back. (I was a notary public for more than 15 years in my pre-TEFL life.)

The doc signs and dates the completed report and writes in his/her medical license number. The section below the doc's signature is where either the College of Physicians or the government agency that regulates medical licensure signs and stamps the form attesting to the doc's license number and that he/she is currently licensed to practice medicine in that state. In my case, in lieu of signing the med report in triplicate, my state's regulatory agency provided me with three original, notarized official letters verifying my doc's license status --- each got attached to a copy of the med report.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
For the US, the medical report does not require notarization of the doctor's signature (i.e., verification of his/her identity). Frankly, there isn't even a notary signature block on that form; it would have to be drafted on the back. (I was a notary public for more than 15 years in my pre-TEFL life.)

The doc signs and dates the completed report and writes in his/her medical license number. The section below the doc's signature is where either the College of Physicians or the government agency that regulates medical licensure signs and stamps the form attesting to the doc's license number and that he/she is currently licensed to practice medicine in that state. In my case, in lieu of signing the med report in triplicate, my state's regulatory agency provided me with three original, notarized official letters verifying my doc's license status --- each got attached to a copy of the med report.


The poster above was in the US.. Also, I didn't have to get the medical form legalised two years ago so is your info up-to-date? It may be still relevant I am not sure..
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Melange



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The agent with whom I spoke made a distinction between a physician's stamp and a notary stamp. The ladder in the event of the doctor not having a "stamp", which as stated earlier is common place outside of KSA. To be perfectly honest, I think it is more to do with custom than anything, as I noticed during my short stay in KSA, nothing is official without a "stamp". They stamp everything there from purchase receipts to letters. Maybe just the sight of a stamp on the document is enough.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

currentaffairs wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
For the US, the medical report does not require notarization of the doctor's signature (i.e., verification of his/her identity). Frankly, there isn't even a notary signature block on that form; it would have to be drafted on the back. (I was a notary public for more than 15 years in my pre-TEFL life.)

The poster above was in the US.. Also, I didn't have to get the medical form legalised two years ago so is your info up-to-date? It may be still relevant I am not sure..

As indicated in my post, my comments were regarding the US and based on the most recent medical report linked on the Saudi Embassy's US website (https://saudiembassy.net/services/Employment-visa.aspx):

https://saudiembassy.net/files/PDF/MedicalReport.pdf

I'm not familiar with the process in other countries.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
currentaffairs wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
For the US, the medical report does not require notarization of the doctor's signature (i.e., verification of his/her identity). Frankly, there isn't even a notary signature block on that form; it would have to be drafted on the back. (I was a notary public for more than 15 years in my pre-TEFL life.)

The poster above was in the US.. Also, I didn't have to get the medical form legalised two years ago so is your info up-to-date? It may be still relevant I am not sure..

As indicated in my post, my comments were regarding the US and based on the most recent medical report linked on the Saudi Embassy's US website (https://saudiembassy.net/services/Employment-visa.aspx):

https://saudiembassy.net/files/PDF/MedicalReport.pdf

I'm not familiar with the process in other countries.


I know you were talking about the US because you said so in the first sentence of your reply.. I was saying that the poster was from the US not the UK and asking why they got the form notarised?

Regarding the signature block that doesn't seem to matter - as there is no block on my medical form but it still needs to be notarised (I think they will stamp it or attach a seal).
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melange wrote:
The agent with whom I spoke made a distinction between a physician's stamp and a notary stamp. The ladder in the event of the doctor not having a "stamp", which as stated earlier is common place outside of KSA. To be perfectly honest, I think it is more to do with custom than anything, as I noticed during my short stay in KSA, nothing is official without a "stamp". They stamp everything there from purchase receipts to letters. Maybe just the sight of a stamp on the document is enough.

Think of it this way... That US agency's attestation and official stamp on the medical report verify that the doctor who signed off on the physical and lab results isn't some quack paid off to cover up a disease or medical condition that would bar the visa applicant from entering into KSA. Seriously.

currentaffairs wrote:
I know you were talking about the US because you said so in the first sentence of your reply.. I was saying that the poster was from the US not the UK and asking why they got the form notarised?

Regarding the signature block that doesn't seem to matter - as there is no block on my medical form but it still needs to be notarised (I think they will stamp it or attach a seal).

I wouldn't know about notarizations in other countries. As stated, my comments were specific to the US.
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nickwils



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: degree attestation Reply with quote

Nicholas19 wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone had to get their documents attested for a visa application for Saudi Arabia so far? Did you use the online form (at http://www.uksacb.org/) or did you get your documents attested by your university and then send them to the Saudi Cultural Bureau by post?

Best regards,

Nicholas


Did you use your original degree document of a copy of your degree. I only ask because in South Korea you have the same process but using a photocopy of your degree.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always use copies. Never allow any of these governments to get their hands on your originals. The chance of never seeing them again is way too high. And they are a real PITA to replace...

VS
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nickwils



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha.

Cheers.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the Saudi Arabian Cultural Bureau in London they send you clear instructions on what they need. Basically, you send a copy of your highest degree. They ask you to email your university to speed up the process as well.
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