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joey2001
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As I said before there are no "credentials"... NONE, ZERO! Would a school be happy with that? WHY???? No TESOL, TEFL, ..... no teaching certificate WHATSOEVER! I am not scamming anyone either, have made my situation clear enough from the beginning . So whose responsibility would it be if they still chose to hire me? I feel I have to practically ram it down their throats every single time this comes up: ENGLISH is not MY FIRST LANGUAGE, and I HAVE NO F****NG TEACHING CERTIFICATES!!! But they wont' just leave me alone! "Doesn't matter... teaching experience is enough... a white face is enough bla bla bla..." But is it? I told them about a hundred times I will not be teaching illegally, privates yes, but not for an established "language school". Do they really not know the legal requirements for foreigners? A school that supposedly employs hundreds of foreign teachers????
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Hi XXX,
The Principal of our Zhongshan campus, Mr. Zhang, gave us your resume and said you're looking for a job. I'm glad to introduce our school to you, and hope you're interested in working in Zhongshan branch.
Longwin Training School was founded in 2002. With four campuses in Nanjing, Suzhou, Kunshan ahd Zhongshan, it’s a professional, advanced educational training institute committed to various walks of life with a profound cultural background, qualified and experienced professional spirit, and enterprising vocational concepts. Longwin Training School focuses on improving the practical communication abilities of its students.
Longwin Training School has been honored to be the sole English training institute for a variety of noted enterprise and government units. We are the advanced educational English training school with greatest number of students and largest scale in Nanjing. At present, we have branch schools in Zhongshan, Kunshan and Suzhou.
Main Duties of English Teacher of Adult Learners (full-time) are as follows:
40 working hours including 25 hours teaching per week
Effectively understand and deliver the prepared teaching materials
Interviewing prospective customers in English
Remuneration
A basic salary of RMB 11,000 monthly, the employee will be paid housing allowance of RMB 1,000 per month. After the completion of 12 months on a year contract, the employee will be entitled to get RMB 8000 for the airplane ticket. Longwin also provides bonus for excellent teachers every month.
If you’re interested in this position, we will arrange an interview on skype with a demo class for you, and then we can evaluate your salary and other issues according to your teaching.
Vivian is our education director, but she is away on vacation this week, so if you have any questions, please feel free to let me know. Vivian will be back this Saturday and we can arrange a demo class this week with me or next week with Vivian.
Best regards,
Nancy |
Any similar experienes? I must say that I have enough confidence in "Vivian" (a student of mine and friend of the school's owner, but not the one mentioned here) who gave me the idea of teaching there a all.
Apart from disagreements. does this sound like a good deal? I have my own place in Zhongshan, won't need their apartment. But if they want to give me a little extra on housing expense I wouldn't say no either.
Experiences? Might that be a good deal? Should I make more demands? What do work hours besides teaching usually involve? Not going to be their dancing monkey in any case, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. If they won't hire me as a teacher then they won't hire me, end of story!
Similar experiences?? Please no non-degree-bashing OK? There are enough threads for that, and I'm pretty much sick and tired of foreigners telling me what I can and can't do without some random piece of paper! Been teaching in China for 15 years now and nobody every told me nothing about needing some degree. Yeah, many of you may hate the fact, but it still works that way in China.  |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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There are MANY non-degreed teachers in China. Many were actually well above competent. Their TEFL certs prepared them for working as teachers of a foreign language on a certain level.
Does anyone even know what the schools send the Powerz That Bee in order to have a letter of invitation issued? Do they need to be convinced of the prospective employee's credentials, or is it merely a matter convincing the school? I've seen a LOT of yo yo's working for Chinese universities, one of whom seemed not to know that he needed a printed DEGREE in order to gain employment in China. I always wondered how he ended up in China in the first place. |
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Babala
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Location: Henan
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| Longwin in Suzhou has screwed over several teachers. I'd give it a pass. Any school who is willing to break the rules/law is not going to be great place to work. As easily as they break the law, they will break your contract. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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Is this Mr. Zhang the Notorious Frank Zhang, by any chance?
If so, run and don't look back. |
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joey2001
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| Babala wrote: |
| Longwin in Suzhou has screwed over several teachers. I'd give it a pass. Any school who is willing to break the rules/law is not going to be great place to work. As easily as they break the law, they will break your contract. |
How so? Do you have examples of them screwing over teachers? Care to share? In any case I agree. The law seems to be very clear on this matter: no certificate no teaching legally in China, period. I did mention that several times to them but they ignored that specific question. My feeling tells me I'd end up in a lot of trouble working for them.
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Is this Mr. Zhang the Notorious Frank Zhang, by any chance?
If so, run and don't look back. |
His first name was not mentioned, all I know is that the principal is a "Mr. Zhang", and that the school is supposed to be huge. How is he notorious? The more of your posts I read the less I like that particular business in any case. I replied to that email I posted earlier, and all I got back was a long Word document on staying healthy, as a possible basis for a sample class. No reply to my questions whatsoever. |
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joey2001
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| A web search for legal requirements for foreign English teachers, in Chinese, only comes up with rules for specific institutions, rather than national laws. Does anyone have links to official nationwide laws regarding foreign teachers, preferably in Chinese? Or is that information not publicly available? |
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