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How has/did Saudi change you?
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Hatcher



Joined: 20 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi made me appreciate my own country so much more.

So many Pakistanis asked me to help them immigrate to Canada.
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scot47



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many are reluctant to return to Pakistan but know they cannot stay long-term in KSA.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Hatcher,

Your post reminded me of the old Peace Corps slogan:

Discover America; Leave it.

Lot of faults in the USA, you betcha (to quote one of them). But living in Saudi can make you appreciate what you are likely to take for granted otherwise.

And it can also make you totally committed to separation of church/mosque/ temple/etc. and state.

Regards,
John
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plumpy nut



Joined: 12 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="cnthaiksarok"][quote="jaffa"]
bigdurian wrote:


"Use a driver?" Uhmm,....you want to trust your life to some guy who can't drive any better than the locals? Up to you. Wink


The local expats are more experienced drivers in Saudi traffic, they might be better for some.
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cnthaiksarok



Joined: 29 Jun 2012
Posts: 288
Location: between a rock and a sandy place

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:
The local expats are more experienced drivers in Saudi traffic, they might be better for some.


I TOTALLY get ya on that.

Actually, I have been in several school 'car pools' in Saudi - with "lead drivers" who thought they were the bees knees when it came to Saudi traffic, yet were horrible drivers themselves and just couldn't seem to get some of the basics down.

Most commutes became an event of sorts. Many just don't possess the temperament or good sense to drive here AND be responsible for others.

My last one kinda' "drove" me to buy in a sense.
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eslteacher2014



Joined: 08 May 2014
Posts: 66

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have changed in that
1. I finally apprecite everything back home.
2. new found appreciation for grass and trees
3. new found appreciation for snow.
4. new found appreciation for money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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eslteacher2014



Joined: 08 May 2014
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O yeah 1 more. Whenever I leave for a vacation or quick outing to the other GCC countries, passing the immigration and waiting at departures is one of the best feelings!!!!!!! we all have a love-hate relationship
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It made me the gentle, tolerant, fair-minded, lovable, generous and considerate man that I am today !
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
It made me the gentle, tolerant, fair-minded, lovable, generous and considerate man that I am today !

What more evidence could you want... Laughing

VS
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some, Saudi is the disease; for others, it's the cure. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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bigdurian



Joined: 05 Feb 2014
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Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa wrote:
bigdurian wrote:
Also, get a car. The best thing you can do.


Shocked Worst advice I've seen on here for a long while.

Use a driver.


The problem with getting s driver is that:

1) You might be sharing him with others.
2) He might only be available at certain hours
3) He could be a lot more expensive than petrol
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bigdurian



Joined: 05 Feb 2014
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Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:
That big wad of cash that is the only reason to come to the KSA becomes significantly less with a car. That could include many things.


I think it works out better in the long run. Buy a cheap Toyota or Hyundai second hand for 10,000 to 20,000, you'll never spend more that 30 SAR a week in petrol. If you're here for a few years I think it's worth it.
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sicklyman



Joined: 02 Feb 2013
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigdurian wrote:
3) He could be a lot more expensive than petrol

Shocked Could be?

Petrol is about the cheapest liquid you can buy here. I'd damn well hope you'd reach a little bit deeper in your pocket than that to pay someone who works for you.
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bigdurian



Joined: 05 Feb 2014
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it could depend though, some places offer driver services for free, so it's the guy's job to do that, therefore no payment is needed.

Out of interest, the petrol in Venezuela is a quarter of the price it is in KSA. Not that KSA is exactly pricey though. Used to drive the four of us from Riyadh to Bahrain for 20 SAR, which sure beats the train for 390 SAR.
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Dedicated



Joined: 18 May 2007
Posts: 972
Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigdurian wrote :

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Riyadh to Bahrain...which sure beats the train for 390 SAR


I was not aware there were any trains in Saudi Arabia apart from Riyadh to Dammam and Mecca to Medina.....?
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