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minimal req' to teach in a university?

 
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t-doo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: minimal req' to teach in a university? Reply with quote

I've searched and found contradicting info about this. Perhaps it depends on the city/province you live in.
I would prefer to live in a tier 1 or 2 city. Possibly Wuxi or Souzhou. Quite honestly I'd rather live in Shanghai, but I assume that good teaching jobs are quite competitive there.

I have a bachelors degree in physical ed. and several years of teaching primarily elementary aged kids. I have experience with middle school too, but not a lot. I've taught business english....but those were not legit jobs.
I'm also currently working on a cheap online tefl course.

So, do I even qualify to teach English at a Chinese Uni? Keep in mind that I would want to live in an area where there is enough demand to pad my income with privates.

Cheers!
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hdeth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you are certified to teach phys. ed in the US which should mean a bachelor's degree? If so, you're more than fine for teaching at a uni. If you actually have teaching certification in your home state then the sky's the limit basically. Do you not like teaching phys ed.? If it's something you enjoy I see jobs pop up more and more wanting qualified phys ed. teachers for high schools. Pay is pretty good.
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t-doo



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My degree is actually a concentration in Sport Performance. I'm not a certified teacher. My biggest regret in life. Will go back in a year or two to pick up the post baccalaureate in a year or 2 from now to pick up my teaching license.

So where does that leave me? Do universities hire those to teach English without being a certified teacher? Or would high schools hire someone like me to teach phys ed?

All but one of my 7 years of teaching experience was in S.Korea. I also had one year of working as a substitute teacher in Canada.
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Timer



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

t-doo wrote:
Do universities hire those to teach English without being a certified teacher?


Yes. In China rules differ from province to province, city to city, school to school, you get the idea. The basic used to be: native English speaker, 3+ year bachelor degree, 2 years teaching experience. It might have changed since then and some schools can bend these rules.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are more than qualified to teach at a university in a tier 1 or 2 city and to meet the current z-visa requirements, unless you have something like a mark on a criminal background check or you cannot prove two years of experience through letters of recommendation.

Universities have on the whole low requirements for teaching English, as does China on the whole. The tougher requirements are based on the recently overhauled visa system (based on the South Korean model) and then amplified (more is always better) and convoluted Sino style.

If you are not tired of teaching South Koreans, you may want to focus on Dalian, Qingdao, Yantai, Lianyungang etc.. They are swamped with Koreans and you can easily build up a privates business at rates (from what I have heard) which will exceed what Chinese will-can pay.
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Angel.Ro



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimpellow wrote:
unless you have something like a mark on a criminal background check or you cannot prove two years of experience through letters of recommendation.

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Was always kinda curious how the background check worked for overseas jobs. So I guess that is just it, for your first job in China etc you need a letter from the company proving you worked there?
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hdeth



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

t-doo wrote:
My degree is actually a concentration in Sport Performance. I'm not a certified teacher. My biggest regret in life. Will go back in a year or two to pick up the post baccalaureate in a year or 2 from now to pick up my teaching license.

So where does that leave me? Do universities hire those to teach English without being a certified teacher? Or would high schools hire someone like me to teach phys ed?

All but one of my 7 years of teaching experience was in S.Korea. I also had one year of working as a substitute teacher in Canada.


Uni gigs are very easy to get if you have a BA and some experience. Probably won't even need an interview.

With your level of experience you could probably get a job teaching at an 'inernational' high school which is generally much better pay but longer hours.

To Angel Ro,

You don't need any proof of past work experience. From what I've seen the majority of Chinese blatantly lie on their resumes. Every place has a probationary period where they figure out whether you work or not.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You don't need any proof of past work experience. From what I've seen the majority of Chinese blatantly lie on their resumes. Every place has a probationary period where they figure out whether you work or not."

I agree with this in the sense that most Chinese employers could care less as long as they have a foreigner for class, and have the out with the probationary period.

I think where this is coming into play is more recently with the visa requirements. I know after the change they were supposed to call and confirm with the z-visa applicant's past employers to verify the two years experience. But I don't think it took them very long to figure out that asking Chinese speaking bureaucrats to actually be able to call around the World to verify, as well as having the inclination to do so, was not the way to go. That is why it seems the more anal jurisdictions increasingly want to see dates on letters of recommendation so they can do the math.
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