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Rooster.
Joined: 13 Mar 2012 Posts: 247
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:14 am Post subject: |
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Phew. Got that part covered, somehow.
Sent in my recruitment form, cover letter and everything yesterday, and got a response today. First interview early next week! The saga continues. |
Like was said before. Take this job, see how it goes. Once you're in Japan you can always move onto something better. |
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GTZetton
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Sent in my interview task for round 2 moments ago.
First interview went well. Well enough to email me the task anyway. It was a bit rough to do something so intimidating at 8:00, but she was well aware of that. I think it also helped that I didn't spend an entire day worrying about it, so it might have even helped to have it so early.
I feel reasonably confident about the task itself. Some of it seemed kind of nonsensical ('how would you rank the following in order of importance to you in terms of your job'), but most of it was stuff where Celta definitely came in handy, and hopefully gives me an edge over all the native speakers who have even less experience teaching.
So far so good! (knock on wood) |
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GTZetton
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Just had the second interview and I feel pretty good about it. It only took 40 minutes as opposed to the 60 it said it was going to (so actually 5 minutes less than the first interview), but we covered all the bases and the guy seemed pretty upbeat about the whole thing. I'll get the results by November 4th at the latest. |
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GTZetton
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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"after reviewing your completed application along with the interviews that were conducted, you were unsuccessful in the final stages and we have decided to pursue other applicants for this position."
Dammit. No idea what those final stages are even supposed to be considering my second interview went better than the first one. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Not to rub salt in a wound, but am curious what items of importance you were asked to rank, and how you ranked them - if you happen to feel like sharing them. There aren't really any 'right/wrong' answers to such questions - it's usually just about demonstrating what you understand about the context they want you to work in. A mismatch between your ideas and theirs might be a logical reason for them to back off.
Sorry you didn't get the job! |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 559 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry to hear that your first application didn't work out. If it's any consolation, I wasn't offered a position by the first company at which I applied. I applied at another company, blew through the interview with flying colors, and got the job. Shortly after I got to Japan and learned more about the eikaiwa scene, I realized that the first company would have been a poor fit for me.
If your Japanese is at level 1-2, you might consider other fields. It might be worth it to look for a job with a company in your country that has offices in Japan, or with a Japanese company that has offices in your country. Either way, your Japanese ability would probably put you at the top of the list for a transfer to Japan. |
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cat mother
Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 62
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:59 am Post subject: |
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I think it was most likely the case of
"Dutch? where is that? Oh, not an English speaking country. Can we get him a visa? Ask the boss."
a minute later
"He's not sure... ok, next!". |
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GTZetton
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
Not to rub salt in a wound, but am curious what items of importance you were asked to rank, and how you ranked them - if you happen to feel like sharing them. There aren't really any 'right/wrong' answers to such questions - it's usually just about demonstrating what you understand about the context they want you to work in. A mismatch between your ideas and theirs might be a logical reason for them to back off.
Sorry you didn't get the job! |
From top to bottom:
Integrity > Conduct > Responsibility > Independence > Security > Community > Prestige
Was more or less the order I thought they might be looking for. Security and prestige low because "it's not about me", conduct and responsibility high because that's what they benefit from. Independence in the middle because I wasn't sure, and integrity at the top because everyone says that's one of, if not the most important thing as a teacher.
| Vince wrote: |
| If your Japanese is at level 1-2, you might consider other fields. It might be worth it to look for a job with a company in your country that has offices in Japan, or with a Japanese company that has offices in your country. Either way, your Japanese ability would probably put you at the top of the list for a transfer to Japan. |
Problem is, I'm not sure I have any marketable skills that would convince a Dutch company to hire me in the first place. I can read and speak Japanese, but I imagine their line of thinking would be "but to what end?"
| cat mother wrote: |
I think it was most likely the case of
"Dutch? where is that? Oh, not an English speaking country. Can we get him a visa? Ask the boss."
a minute later
"He's not sure... ok, next!". |
I'd like to think that wasn't it. At least not entirely. I talked pretty extensively with both interviewers (one Japanese, one Russian, I believe) about me being from the Netherlands and what that meant for me as an English teacher. I even praised Gaba to high heaven for being one of the few major companies to even look at my resume as a non-native English speaker. |
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GTZetton
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I sent out half a dozen applications through Gajinpot the past couple days, but they're all long shots (I'm constantly between the 20th and 120th applicant for any given posting), and I've only heard back from one so far ("thanks but no thanks"). Considering the numbers, I'm not expecting to hear back from any of the others, at least nothing positive.
So yesterday I had a thought. Or rather, I became more open to a possibility that several people around me had already suggested a while ago, which is to go to Japan on a tourist visa, look for work while there, and then change my tourist visa to a work visa once I have a job/sponsor. If nothing else, looking for work while there takes care of the "must reside in Japan" requirement which prevents me from responding to about 75% of everything that comes my way in Gaijinpot's jobmail. Rather than staying at a ho(s)tel, I'd find an apartment that doesn't need a guarantor and just pay rent for a few months, and use that as a central base. I might not have been hired by Gaba, but can still use their list of accomodations as a starting point for that particular search. I know there's a one month time limit while looking for work because "the application process for attaining the work visa could take up to two months" ( http://traveltips.usatoday.com/change-tourist-visa-working-visa-japan-18992.html ), but that still seems preferable to applying to a handful of super long shots every few days.
Responses on this reddit thread ( https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/1dwhue/getting_a_job_in_japan_on_a_tourists_visa_xpost/ ) are somewhat heartening, and the topic creator seemed to be in largely the same situation as I am.
So am I completely out of my mind? Or does this seem feasible? Feel free to shoot holes in my (admittedly far from fleshed out) plan.
By the way, regarding JET, I sent an email to the Japanese embassy (who is in charge of JET here) asking if a JET programme for 2016 is confirmed, and received this response:
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