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Will teaching in China be useful for finding a job later?
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Twizman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:37 am    Post subject: Will teaching in China be useful for finding a job later? Reply with quote

I am a 27 year old student graduating at the end of the year (Grad Diploma in Primary teaching, will have Master by end 2016).

I want to start my career in China. My parents and family friends however recommend getting at least a year of experience in my home country (Australia) first. My mum is quite distressed.

Is Chinese teaching experience valuable for my job prospects back home? Or will it possibly become much harder to find a job after 1-2+ years away? I don't want to harm my future job opportunities in Australia.

UPDATE question: Will my employment chances in China decrease significantly at 30+ years of age, if I decide to get a few years of experience at home first? One of the arguments of my family is that I can do overseas teaching anytime.

One last question- would it be wise to take a short trip to China to see if I like it there? Thanks Very Happy


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Big Worm



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on what you want to do.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..and where you want to do it.

If your goal is to teach EFL in Asia, China's an ok place to start out, probably.

However, in the big picture 1-2 years is neither going to make or break your CV regardless of how your mother feels about it Laughing Wink
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Twizman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I decide to start my career in Australia first, will it become much harder to find work in China if I am at 29-30+ years of age? I am 27 now.

I have heard that employers much prefer to hire younger people, in the business of EFL teaching.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twizman wrote:
If I decide to start my career in Australia first, will it become much harder to find work in China if I am at 29-30+ years of age? I am 27 now.

I have heard that employers much prefer to hire younger people, in the business of EFL teaching.

There are lots of expats more than twice your age who are teaching in China and elsewhere.

and Twizman wrote:
I want to start my career in China. My parents and family friends however recommend getting at least a year of experience in my home country (Australia) first. My mum is quite distressed.

Is Chinese teaching experience valuable for my job prospects back home? Or will it possibly become much harder to find a job after 1-2+ years away? I don't want to harm my future job opportunities in Australia.

One last question- would it be wise to take a short trip to China to see if I like it there?

Sure, visit China to see if you'd like it (although visiting isn't the same as navigating the ups and downs of daily work and life). A couple of my friends did just that and subsequently changed their minds due to the pollution.

If you plan to teach in your home country in the future, teach there first before heading to China. (China experience doesn't always impress employers in other countries.) Plus, having home experience will make you eligible for the better international schools jobs in China.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say do what you want. At 27 you are wanting to listen to you mom, my mom has advise, but knows better than to tell me.
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JamesD



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two cents, do it now.

Scenario 1: You come to China and get some practical classroom time under your belt while dealing while culture shock. Trial by fire.
After a couple of years you head back to Aussieland with cross-culture experience that shows employers you can deal with a variety of issues.

Scenario 2: You teach for a few years and then say to your employer, "This blows, time to realize my dream. Think I'll take off for China for a few years."
After teaching in China you head back home and a school asks you, "Why did you teach here for two years and then take off?"
Your reply..."Just had an itch."

Do it at the beginning of your career rather than later.

As for
Quote:
UPDATE question: Will my employment chances in China decrease significantly at 30+ years of age...

I'm 58 and not the oldest person on these boards.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother, who is right about to get Aus citizenship, was listing jobs in his area. Comparable with here, so why leave.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing to take away from a stint in China is speaking Mandarin.
This isn't to say that lungs that glow in the dark and perforated colons aren't great work stories.
Masters in liberal arts plus Mandarin could be a great entre into the Aust diplo service.
Think about it.
Best
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R.U.SERIOUS?



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Non Sequitir... your teaching gig in China won't even help you get a job at a kindergarten in Yemen but if you can learn Mandarin while you are here you open doors with law firms, international trade companies, immigration and logistics companies, etc.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R.U.SERIOUS? wrote:
But if you can learn Mandarin while you are here you open doors with law firms, international trade companies, immigration and logistics companies, etc.

All of which require more than a degree in primary school education. Rolling Eyes
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Twizman



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much everyone! After talking with a vice principal, family and friends I've decided it would be best to first get some experience here. Then I can pursue my China dream. Razz
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twizman wrote:
After talking with a vice principal, family and friends I've decided it would be best to first get some experience here. Then I can pursue my China dream.

Smart decision. Good luck with the rest of your studies.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
R.U.SERIOUS? wrote:
But if you can learn Mandarin while you are here you open doors with law firms, international trade companies, immigration and logistics companies, etc.

All of which require more than a degree in primary school education. Rolling Eyes


That's not my experience.
A degree in any subject area is the norm. It simply shows you have the fortitude to pursue a course and succeed.
Many diplo services have an entry test, but the language skill will be the most persuasive.
Given that on current prognostications we change careers 6x in a working life, that degree major recedes very quickly.
Primary teaching indicates a generic interest to engage with people.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
R.U.SERIOUS? wrote:
But if you can learn Mandarin while you are here you open doors with law firms, international trade companies, immigration and logistics companies, etc.

All of which require more than a degree in primary school education. Rolling Eyes

That's not my experience.
A degree in any subject area is the norm. It simply shows you have the fortitude to pursue a course and succeed.
Many diplo services have an entry test, but the language skill will be the most persuasive.
Given that on current prognostications we change careers 6x in a working life, that degree major recedes very quickly.
Primary teaching indicates a generic interest to engage with people.

My response about relevant degrees was in relation to employment in law firms, international trade companies, immigration, logistics companies... and not the diplomatic service. Employers in these industries at home and abroad require more than foreign language skills and the ability to engage with people.
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