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Goodbye to Tax free Dubai and Gulf countries
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Saad86



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:10 pm    Post subject: Goodbye to Tax free Dubai and Gulf countries Reply with quote

This is interesting the Gulf states and Gulf cooperation council will now start taxing its citizens, I assume that also include those resident in the country.
So expect living costs to go up further!

Below is text of article from The Times.

Oil slump forces Gulf states to tax the people

Six Gulf states will introduce VAT over the next three years to stem the plunge in government revenues


Six Gulf states will introduce VAT over the next three years to stem the plunge in government revenues Atlantide Phototravel/Corbis
Hugh Tomlinson Qatar
Published at 12:01AM, December 10 2015
Six Gulf states, hard hit by the slump in global oil prices and costly military campaigns, have said that they will tax their citizens for the first time.
The Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC) — a loose federation of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates — will introduce VAT over the next three years in an attempt to stem the plunge in government revenues.
The move marks a radical policy shift: the states levy a few charges on their citizens, such as traffic tolls, but do not tax income or purchases. This tax-free environment has enabled cities such as Dubai to attract foreign expertise and labour as they plan ahead for the day the oil runs out.
With the price of oil dropping close to $40 a barrel this week — the lowest since the financial crisis — the tax initiative underscores growing concern throughout the region.
Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, the ruler of Qatar, the world’s richest country per capita, told the nation last month that the government could no longer “provide for everything”. Too many people were dependent on the state, which “reduces the motivation of individuals to take initiatives and be progressive”, he said.
Taxation has long been mooted as the Gulf states try to wean their economies and populations off a dependence on oil and gas. A tradition of jobs for life for most has left the region with a bulging public sector and governments have struggled to persuade people to join the private sector and diversify the economy. Qatar and the UAE have reintroduced military service in a bid to foster a strong work ethic.
Saudi Arabia has quietly withdrawn tens of billions of dollars from global investment funds over recent months as it seeks to plug a widening budget deficit. The world’s largest oil exporter has seen its vast foreign reserves, valued at $700 billion last year, reduced by more than $70 billion in the past 12 months.
It has shelved dozens of projects and reined in spending at home, but continues to pursue an aggressive foreign policy. It supports anti-government groups in Syria and has spearheaded an eight-month military campaign against rebels in Yemen who are backed by the kingdom’s arch-enemy, Iran.
Bahrain, riven by a sectarian insurgency that has continued unabated since the 2011 Arab Spring, yesterday announced 30 per cent cuts in government spending. The UAE announced in July that it was relaxing state subsidies on petrol, raising fuel prices in a first step towards curbing the gas-guzzling habits of its citizens. Cheap fuel is seen as a birthright in the Gulf, but the UAE move is the clearest indication yet that those days are nearing an end. The International Monetary Fund projects that the UAE will post its first fiscal deficit since 2009 this year.
Despite their financial woes, the Gulf states have refused to cut oil production — ensuring a glut and effectively keeping prices low as they fight for market share with American shale and Canadian tar sands producers.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VAT is too complex and relies on a "culture of cooperation" which is not present in the Gulf. A Sales Tax is more likely. They are different.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since there is actually very little produced in the GCC that is sold in the GCC, (petroleum?) either they intend a "sales tax" or there will be no one to VAT tax...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sky is falling because of a sales tax? Please...
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waltgomez



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a meal at an Indian restaurant in Al Khobar: SAR 10. Then, I bought a dishdasha for SAR 20. A taxi ride in a non metered taxi was SAR 15. Tax this!
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bdbarnett1 wrote:
The sky is falling because of a sales tax? Please...


A little sales tax won't hurt anybody too badly, but if they start taxing salaries, the place will lose a lot of it's appeal to expat laborers. Maybe they won't all go away at once or even too quickly, but places like Saudi Arabia don't lend themselves to people sticking around for too long.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RustyShackleford wrote:
bdbarnett1 wrote:
The sky is falling because of a sales tax? Please...


A little sales tax won't hurt anybody too badly, but if they start taxing salaries, the place will lose a lot of it's appeal to expat laborers. Maybe they won't all go away at once or even too quickly, but places like Saudi Arabia don't lend themselves to people sticking around for too long.


I agree, an income tax would give pause. I just got done with a 4 year stint in the UAE, 10 km from the Saudi border.
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2buckets



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSA introduced the idea of an income tax in the mid 80s. The country pretty much came to a grinding halt as most of the professionals who keep the country running walked off the job. Tax was rescinded within 24 hours, and then they paid out all the GOSI money to placate the masses. And this was a time of much higher salaries and benefits.

"culture of cooperation" only when taking exams.

A sales tax would just be an opportunity for greedy retailers to increase prices with little hope of the money reaching the government. Doomed by a lack of accountability.

If the GCC hadn't wasted so much money on military spending, grandiose projects, and CORRUPTION, they wouldn't be in such a state. Like many old time Gulf workers, I've always hoped to see their economic downfall, and now that may be possible. That's what they get.
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1st Sgt Welsh



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting discussion Cool.

2buckets wrote:


If the GCC hadn't wasted so much money on military spending, grandiose projects, and CORRUPTION, they wouldn't be in such a state. Like many old time Gulf workers, I've always hoped to see their economic downfall, and now that may be possible. That's what they get.


I've actually heard this sentiment expressed by quite a few Gulf expats since I've been here, especially, at least it seems to me, if they happened to have worked in Kuwait and the KSA. Personally, I really like the Omanis as people, but, if it hadn't been for the oil and the foreigners who discovered and drilled for it, then I think it's fair to say that Oman, and the other GCC countries, would have remained third world backwaters. Certainly I doubt that any nations in history have enjoyed the same level of economic opportunities that the GCC nations have had and these opportunities, lets be honest, haven't come about due to the local's electrifying work ethic Rolling Eyes. Anyway, the economic system here, at least as it applies to the GCC nationals, seems to be geared more to redistribution, instead of productivity, and it's clearly not sustainable. Vari