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kevincollege
Joined: 09 Dec 2015 Posts: 9 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:35 pm Post subject: chinese medical form |
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Having an issue filling out the embassy medical form for z visa.
I clinic quoted me 700 for all the HIV to etc testing.
I went to CVS clinic and they say they can;t fill it out. I went to my primary care they say they can't even complete all this testing.
I don't feeling like going thought all this testing.
Is this what is expected to work in China? Or am I wrong? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I recall my general practitioner (family) Dr saying: 'Some of these things are incomprehensible'.
Where he couldn't get a handle on what was required he wrote: 'Normal'. |
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kevincollege
Joined: 09 Dec 2015 Posts: 9 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:45 am Post subject: Re: chinese medical form |
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eihpos
Joined: 14 Dec 2008 Posts: 331
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Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:17 am Post subject: |
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My GP was a bit bewildered at certain questions (extremities, nervous system) but she just wrote 'normal' for everything. The fee was 50 euro plus an additional 20 for the blood work, and the nurse didn't charge extra for the ECG. I had an x ray done here a couple of years ago and the doctor could retrieve a copy of it on the system. She said it would be fine. This was all done in Ireland, so it may not be quite so 'relaxed' elsewhere.
My employer required me to send the original form and results to them, so when I go to the consulate, I will have a copy only. However, the last time I applied (just over a year ago) they didn't require the form at the embassy. I will need to double check this though. |
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jimpellow
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:09 am Post subject: |
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The medical is supposed to be done through an embassy "approved" medical facility. This generally means a larger public hospital.
There are applicants who have been approved after one was done elsewhere. But there have been reports in the past of applicants denied for not meeting this requirement.
"Is this what is expected to work in China? Or am I wrong?"
If you are trying to ask if this insanity will follow you if you make it to China. Yes, but only every other day. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| jimpellow wrote: |
The medical is supposed to be done through an embassy "approved" medical facility. This generally means a larger public hospital.
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This has always been a stated requirement for at least twelve years, but it is unenforceable in the U.S. for several reasons. First, the embassies (really the consulates) don't know of every hospital in the U.S.. Second, hospitals don't know if they are approved. Third, the consulates don't know which hospitals are approved. (Really. If you can get a working phone number of your local consulate, no one will know). Fourth, in the U.S., one can't usually get all of the tests performed in the hospital as an out-patient because most are not set up for that sort of operation.
I've contacted the consulate in the past to inquire, and I was told to have my doctor's office perform the tests and evaluations and stamp the paperwork.
In most states, public hospitals no longer exist in the U.S.. I live in a city in the U.S. where the medical industry is a major employer and is a major research center, but one cannot walk into a hospital and ask for all of the tests required by the medical form and get them.
Most doctors work for clinics that are affiliated with a hospital group. Those clinics are approved. |
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roadwalker

Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 1750 Location: Ch
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:07 am Post subject: |
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The last couple of times I had to fill out the form (in the U.S.), I went to a doc-in-the-box type clinic and it cost me about $200. I skipped the x-ray both times. If the doctor or physician's assistant is confused about a box, ask them to write "normal" or "no issues" or something similar. Even 'NA' is better than blank. The blood test and any official marks or stamps from the clinic/office/hospital are the most important things, so make sure to get the blood test and ask them to be sure to stamp it so it's all official-like.
I don't think it's the government in general that wants this exam anymore, but the school that is sponsoring you: they don't want to shell out money, spend time and resources, and be responsible for you if you are going to fail the REAL medical in China (needed for the FEC, and therefore the residence permit) after all of their efforts. |
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hdeth
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| My school told me that the x-ray and EKG (the expensive bits in the US) were not necessary. I vaguely recall trying to get help from the embassy about approved clinics and not really getting anywhere. Just used a local GP. He didn't understand some items on the form but like others have said just wrote normal or something like that in the box. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| hdeth wrote: |
| He didn't understand some items on the form but like others have said just wrote normal or something like that in the box. |
Mine laughed at the "toxicomania" box. |
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max71081
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
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| He didn't understand some items on the form but like others have said just wrote normal or something like that in the box. |
Mine laughed at the "toxicomania" box. |
what cha gonna do when toxicomania runs wild on you, brother  |
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jimpellow
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:07 am Post subject: |
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"I don't think it's the government in general that wants this exam anymore, but the school that is sponsoring you: they don't want to shell out money, spend time and resources, and be responsible for you if you are going to fail the REAL medical in China (needed for the FEC, and therefore the residence permit) after all of their efforts."
I agree that the government does not require it, or at least the central government since April 2014. I really think it is the local jurisdictions that always seem a year or two behind Beijing's directives.
I understand this argument about the school asking for it, but every time I read it I have to wonder why a school would place such a high barrier to employment and why so many seem to have started to ask for it in the last couple years.
Thanks for the clarification omniscient Bud.  |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jimpellow wrote: |
"I don't think it's the government in general that wants this exam anymore, but the school that is sponsoring you: they don't want to shell out money, spend time and resources, and be responsible for you if you are going to fail the REAL medical in China (needed for the FEC, and therefore the residence permit) after all of their efforts."
I agree that the government does not require it, or at least the central government since April 2014. I really think it is the local jurisdictions that always seem a year or two behind Beijing's directives.
I understand this argument about the school asking for it, but every time I read it I have to wonder why a school would place such a high barrier to employment and why so many seem to have started to ask for it in the last couple years.
Thanks for the clarification omniscient Bud.  |
Anyone know how many Z visa people fail residence because of problems revealed by the in-country medical? |
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