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jesso92
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 Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:56 am Post subject: How long before you give up? |
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Hey guys,
When you are applying to teaching companies from abroad, how long does it usually take for them to contact you? I've waited like 4-5 weeks on a couple, and about 1 week on others, so the question is, when do you know that you will definitely not be contacted? When should I give up on a company?
I hear that people get contacted after 2 business days and things like that, so I had to ask, cause, it is pretty depressing, that I've applied to at least 15 places and none as gotten back to me. Not even to inquire for more information or ask for an interview. |
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Nemu_Yoake
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| Don't give up. Try smaller schools in the countryside. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:49 am Post subject: Re: How long before you give up? |
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| jesso92 wrote: |
Hey guys,
When you are applying to teaching companies from abroad, how long does it usually take for them to contact you? I've waited like 4-5 weeks on a couple, and about 1 week on others, so the question is, when do you know that you will definitely not be contacted? When should I give up on a company?
I hear that people get contacted after 2 business days and things like that, so I had to ask, cause, it is pretty depressing, that I've applied to at least 15 places and none as gotten back to me. Not even to inquire for more information or ask for an interview. |
You can never know what a company is thinking. 4 - 5 weeks ago was the middle of December. Probably nobody is going to respond then- it's too close to the winter vacation. One week is nothing at all. In fact, depending on the company, today may actually be the first real day of work since the winter break (New Years is an important holiday period. And then yesterday was another holiday in Japan).
Often, companies have an application deadline. They may just collect all the resumes that come in and leave them in a box (or in a folder on a computer if email applications are allowed). That means they don't even really look at them until after the deadline.
You never actually 'give up' on a company unless / until you get a 'not interested' email or letter (but it isn't uncommon to never get any info from them- there may have been more than 100 applicants for a single position). But applying to a job doesn't actually mean much at all. Don't assume they won't get back to you, or that they will get back to you. You just keep applying to other jobs that you think you would be a good fit for. |
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jesso92
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| Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:01 am Post subject: |
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You can never know what a company is thinking. 4 - 5 weeks ago was the middle of December. Probably nobody is going to respond then- it's too close to the winter vacation. One week is nothing at all. In fact, depending on the company, today may actually be the first real day of work since the winter break (New Years is an important holiday period. And then yesterday was another holiday in Japan).
Often, companies have an application deadline. They may just collect all the resumes that come in and leave them in a box (or in a folder on a computer if email applications are allowed). That means they don't even really look at them until after the deadline. |
I see, I didn't know this. Yea I applied to a couple ones on December 17. Some that I thought were the undisputed bottom easier to get into. Some one else claiming to be experienced said that if after 3 weeks I hadn't heard from them it was best to forget about them. But I indeed wondered if because I applied during the holidays a delay would happen, or I would just have been overlooked.
Thanks for the reply, it's encouraging. Fingers crossed. |
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nightsintodreams
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You talk about "giving up" as if you're actually doing something, you're not, you're just waiting.
Waiting for a response doesn't take any energy or effect your life in the slightest.Personally, I would just assume that I hadn't got the job and keep trying other companies. |
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jesso92
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You talk about "giving up" as if you're actually doing something, you're not, you're just waiting. |
Well this is exactly what I meant. Giving up on waiting, waiting is something, you are expecting, and it does take time, energy and concentration. Now keep in mind, I'm waiting on like 15 companies to get back to me, not just 1.
Since I started on this journey, I've put work into get my TEFL certification, brushing up on grammar, study interview questions, and get myself online English teaching jobs to boost my currently empty resume. I am not just sitting at my computer, clicking away at application forms.
Moving on...  |
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Inflames
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I once applied for a job in December and was contacted by them in February.
Finding a job is a full-time job. Some people get lucky and get hired by the first place they apply to; others have to apply to 20 before getting an interview (note: if you apply to 25 or 30 places, including the big chains, and hear nothing back, seek advice about your resume/essays). |
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Sudz
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On a similar note, how long might one expect to wait AFTER the interview to get a response? Also, will employers typically send give you a 'sorry we're not interested' email?
I had one interview last week, and one in early/mid December. |
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nightsintodreams
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| The point I and others have tried to make was obviously lost on you. |
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Elicit
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Never give up on them, but don't stand still waiting. By the time they get back to you, you may have found a better job.
Longest time between interview and offer, not for Japan, was almost 1 year to the day.  I had to decline as I had found a similarly good job elsewhere. Replied I would be interested in working for them in the future and still may do. |
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rtm
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| waiting is something, you are expecting, and it does take time, energy and concentration. |
I'd suggest not putting any time, energy, or concentration into waiting. Every time I submit a job application, I just forget about it and assume I didn't get the job. If they contact me, great. |
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Rooster.
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Most of the time I did not get any notification about not getting a job.
In some cases I would be told I passed to another round or was hired a few days to a few weeks after initially interviewing. It varied a lot for me. |
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nightsintodreams
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| I'd suggest not putting any time, energy, or concentration into waiting. Every time I submit a job application, I just forget about it and assume I didn't get the job. If they contact me, great. |
This! |
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