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plumpy nut
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 Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:00 pm Post subject: Teaching in Saudi Arabia for reasons other than money |
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 It's good that as some people claim, money is not the only reason to be in Saudi Arabia. Some finance experts are saying there is a 25% chance of the devaluation of the Riyal, 40% if the current oil levels remain over 2016. Prospective employees to Saudi companies make sure that pay level is higher than usual. You might use this report as a bargaining chip for a higher salary on your contract. |
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spanglish
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| and/or negotiate a set monthly amount in US dollars or sterling. |
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Hatcher
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Well, how many did you meet who were there for reasons there than money.
Some are there because they cant get hired anywhere else. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Many in that category.
There are many with mental health "Issues"
There are those who follow the Prophet
There are the lost |
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Kimchidon
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| I had planned to go to Saudi until my visa got denied, and money was one of three reasons. The other two were that I could send my kid to a nice international school school (which I guess is basically like saying "money) and also for the opporunity to travel all over. Perhaps this coudl be seen as money too, but I'm also referring to the lengthy holidays. Also, 4 hours of work a day is right up my alley. |
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gregory999
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
Many in that category.
There are many with mental health "Issues"
There are those who follow the Prophet
There are the lost |
And which one were you, scotty? |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone should experience Saudi Arabia. It is an essential part of the formation of a rounded and balanced adult. |
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rustyrockets
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Well from the experiences of people I know, interests beyond money range from good outdoor activities (diving, fishing, hiking, camping) to cultural and academic interests, this means people who enjoy Arabic culture and want to improve their command of the language so they somehow manage to find friends there to learn and practice.
Other than that I'd say travelling (though I know it is derived from money) and a few people that did Middle Eastern Studies and want to get both Middle East work experience and money while they think of a research topic (also Middle East related) for their PhD. |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| rustyrockets wrote: |
Well from the experiences of people I know, interests beyond money range from good outdoor activities (diving, fishing, hiking, camping) to cultural and academic interests, this means people who enjoy Arabic culture and want to improve their command of the language so they somehow manage to find friends there to learn and practice.
Other than that I'd say travelling (though I know it is derived from money) and a few people that did Middle Eastern Studies and want to get both Middle East work experience and money while they think of a research topic (also Middle East related) for their PhD. |
But did these people go there specifically to enjoy the outdoor activities or were they added bonuses in addition to a decent salary? I certainly didn´t find Saudi unbearable, far from it, but can´t imagine anyone being attracted to the Kingdom for anything other than the money. Unless you are a Muslim, of course. |
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johnslat
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Hmm, how about curiosity - wanting to experience what is probably the culture/society most different/exotic for most western individuals?
Regards,
John |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| johnslat wrote: |
Hmm, how about curiosity - wanting to experience what is probably the culture/society most different/exotic for most western individuals?
Regards,
John |
Experience an exotic or different culture? I don´t know about that. I always felt that I was living IN a country yet OUTSIDE it. I lived on a western compound, watched western TV, played golf, read books in English and shopped at Safeway. I never set foot in a Saudi home, spoke to a Saudi woman or even got to know a Saudi man reasonably well. Didn´t find it unpleasant but can´t say it was a culturally rewarding experience. : |
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johnslat
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Never lived on a compound in all my time there. Back in 2003, when the compounds started getting attacked, that made it seem even smarter. 
I set foot in Saudi homes, had a good number of (male) Saudi friends (still have many of them) and spoke to Saudi women.
Regards,
John |
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rustyrockets
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| But did these people go there specifically to enjoy the outdoor activities or were they added bonuses in addition to a decent salary? I certainly didn´t find Saudi unbearable, far from it, but can´t imagine anyone being attracted to the Kingdom for anything other than the money. Unless you are a Muslim, of course. |
I wouldn't say they went there for the outdoor activities, but I would dare to say that there is definitely an impulse towards moving to the Middle East due to intellectual inclinations and plain curiosity about the country. You might still find that difficult to understand but I went to a university in the UK that is highly specialized in the Middle East and attracts people who are extremely passionate about the region. Among my former classmates you would find people that have even moved to war zones in order to help refugees or joined the red cross. I know some that want to do their PhD research about Saudi or the gulf so I'd say it makes sense to move there. Plus you get the money perks which will help finance the PhD. |
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plumpy nut
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| Very surprising indeed |
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nomad soul
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| But did these people go there specifically to enjoy the outdoor activities or were they added bonuses in addition to a decent salary? I certainly didn´t find Saudi unbearable, far from it, but can´t imagine anyone being attracted to the Kingdom for anything other than the money. Unless you are a Muslim, of course. |
I wouldn't say they went there for the outdoor activities, but I would dare to say that there is definitely an impulse towards moving to the Middle East due to intellectual inclinations and plain curiosity about the country. You might still find that difficult to understand but I went to a university in the UK that is highly specialized in the Middle East and attracts people who are extremely passionate about the region. Among my former classmates you would find people that have even moved to war zones in order to help refugees or joined the red cross. I know some that want to do their PhD research about Saudi or the gulf so I'd say it makes sense to move there. Plus you get the money perks which will help finance the PhD. |
Generally, holders of degrees in international or Mid East Studies end up working for NGOs or in governmental agency/diplomatic services, which may not always equate to having an office in the region. If they're teaching, they're more likely to do so in academia in their home country and in subjects related to their degree specialty as opposed to teaching English in the Mid East. |
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