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sbettinson

Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Taichung
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject: Advice on being new to teaching in Taiwan |
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Hi everyone,
This is my first post after having joined last week and I am looking for some advice (like most people on this site) on teaching in Taiwan.
My girlfriend and I are planning on coming to Taiwan in October and we have no experience of TEFL. We both have a degree and are booked on a weekend TEFL course at the end of August so that base is covered before anyone asks.
My girlfriend currently works in a 1 to 1 role teaching people how to use computers in the local community in her home town in England. She has also performed a number of sub teaching exercises in local schools before she landed her current job. So, she has a good idea and a moderate grounding in terms of teaching experience.
I, on the other hand, have none. Well, I have taught a couple of people in my family and my old landlord who was in his 60s how to use computers but nothing you would count as classroom based or even extensive learning. I currently work in a Business Development role for a Training company in Northern Ireland and have done so for the past 2 years.
I know that experience in many schools/institutes is not a pre-requisite and the chances are that my girlfriend will be the person in greater demand out of the two of us but it concerns me that I have no experience and the only thing that really swings it in my direction is that I am a native English speaker. Is this the case for many people?
Why Taiwan you may ask? We like the look of Taiwan most of all and then S.Korea in terms of salary vs cost of living. We are both looking to get some experience in doing something different for a while and we like the idea of TEFL, the chance to experience another culture and also save some money as we both have debts to pay back here in the UK from our student days. I'm sure we are not the only ones!
I have spent many years living abroad when I was young and last year spent a month in Beijing, absolutely loved it and thought the people were fantastic. Needless to say I would be keen to get away and go back to the Far East and my girlfriend does too.
Well, that's us in a nutshell without too many specifics. The questions I really wanted to ask are about contacting schools and what sort of things I personally should be stating in my CV and covering letter to attract the attention of prospective employers. With no teaching experience to put in my CV that is of value should I just state my achievements in my current and past jobs? Naturally I want to keep the whole thing concise and not to state too much info on my sales role as it isn't hugely applicable.
In terms of actually applying for jobs I take it there is plenty of demand and by coming in October we have not missed the boat at all? Our plan would be for one of us to land a job with a school before coming out and then the other person applies for a working visa and looks for jobs once we are our there and fill in time with private tuition. Naturally we would like the same city and being at different schools is not a problem.
Finally, this may sound like one of those stupid, "how long is a piece of string?" questions but is it possible to find work quickly before heading out there? I am finishing my job here in Ireland at the end of September and would like to be applying now for jobs starting in October. Is that a reaosnable timeframe?
I would greatly appreciate any feedback and perhaps the opportunity to either email or speak to someone by phone who is currently teaching in Taiwan to get some further information on their experiences.
Well, I will leave it there for now and look forward to a response. Thank you if you managed to read this far!
Thanks,
Shaun |
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Pop Fly

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 429
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Advice on being new to teaching in Taiwan |
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sbettinson wrote: |
This is my first post after having joined last week and I am looking for some advice (like most people on this site) on teaching in Taiwan. |
Well, you've come to the 2nd best place for intel. You may also want to look here The search function at both sites can be a great tool.
sbettinson wrote: |
My girlfriend and I are planning on coming to Taiwan in October and we have no experience of TEFL. We both have a degree and are booked on a weekend TEFL course at the end of August so that base is covered before anyone asks. |
Based on this information alone, I can assure you that you both will be working in no time.
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Why Taiwan you may ask? |
No, we won't.
sbettinson wrote: |
The questions I really wanted to ask are about contacting schools and what sort of things I personally should be stating in my CV and covering letter to attract the attention of prospective employers. With no teaching experience to put in my CV that is of value should I just state my achievements in my current and past jobs? |
Seriously, resumes and CV's such as yours will read are useless. Try putting "No ESL Experience" and some contact info on a business card and then go for a walk around the neighbourhood you choose to live in. Spend about two weeks interviewing at different schools. Build up your demo and negotiation skills. Then start to look in earnest. Two days and you'll be working.
sbettinson wrote: |
here in Ireland |
Or maybe not.
sbettinson wrote: |
Thank you if you managed to read this far!
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I doesn't have to much truble becuase I are a english teachur.
The best piece of advise I can give you about this board is not to take anything this guy called "Aristotle" sez seriously.
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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MTurton

Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 107
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Aristotle advises:
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1. Don't take a job from overseas, you need to be in Taiwan to find a good job. |
Almost always true. But newbies do not need "a good job" to start out but a steady one.
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2. Do not work for a school that has any complaints filed against it. |
These are where....?
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3. Stay out of Chaiyi and Taidong counties. |
<howls with laughter> Get a grip, Aristotle. Aristotle likes to claim that part of Taiwan are "unsafe." Taitung is beautiful, I am going there next week for fun, and Chiayi is as safe as anywhere.
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4. Don't use a recruiter or work for chain schools if you can help it. |
Recruiters should be avoided. Chains are good places to start out, with stable hours and sometimes offering training.
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5. Do your homework and get a multiple entry, tourist visa for business purposes. |
Good.
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6. Only allow a school to sponsor your ARC if you are 100% sure they can offer you a valid ARC for the only school you will be working in. |
How can you be sure, Aristotle?
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7. Visa runs are worth the price and not just because of the money or visa. |
The work permit system is more convenient and stable, Aristotle.
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8. When things go bad and they usually do for newbies, quit and find another job quickly. |
They do not "usually" do so; they sometimes go wrong. And yes, quit immediately.
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9. Do not sign a contract that is written in a language you can't understand or allows for illegitimate pay deductions. |
Aristotle, only the Chinese contract is enforceable in law. How is the newbie to verify what the contract says in Chinese? And in any case, contracts are hard to get enforced!
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10. Find a school that has been around for a few years, has a good reputation and is professionally run by teachers, not egocentric business people. |
That's why chains are good places to start.
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Be forewarned!
The Republic Of China on Taiwan continues to maintain third world levels of socio-political development. |
<sigh> I've lived in the third world, Aristotle. This ain't it.
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sbettinson

Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Location: Taichung
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Thank you very much so far. My fears of finding work are starting to reside a little more now.
The business card thing sounds like a good idea. Will have to give that a whirl when we get out there. In my job now I do a lot of prospecting so I guess you could say it was second nature to me!
I'm finding out more useful links and snippets of info every day so keep 'em coming if you have any more.
Aristotle - I'm watching out for you...
Bye for now and hopefully I may get to meet some of you soon.
Shaun |
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Xenophobe
Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 163
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Taiwan may not be Third World, but it has only one foot on the First World pedestal. I had this discussion with some Taiwanophiles, a few years back. One inDuhvidual (to coin a phrase developed by Scott Adams) stated that if if Taiwan wasn't part of the First World, then it should at least be considered Second World rather than Third World. Buttmunch, whose degree was in Fine Arts, didn't realise that that term was used used to refer to the former Soviet Union and its vassal states.
The standard of living is First World, it is its transparency and adherence to rule of law (or lack thereof) that keeps it out of full membership in the First World, according to Amnesty International. But then again Svend Robinson has demonstrated how Canada has a two tier legal system (I can''t use the term criminal justice as justice seems to have taken a sabbatical from Canada's courts) somewhat akin to Taiwanese Kangaroo Courts. |
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