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thunder_god



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
thunder_god wrote:
I've been practising for the past few days with 4 different people who I do a language exchange with over skype and I'm actually finding that my lesson is too long because the students take too long to answer the questions correctly or get a bit carried away and want to do more. I had 1 lesson intended for only 20 minutes and it ended up being an hour long. Right now I'm actually trying to shorten it by a lot.
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Ok after practicing with 4 "students" (non-native speakers from another country) it seems I'm actually going way past my time limit with lessons usually ending around the 1 hr to 45 minute mark. Anyways I think I'm going to go with something like this especially my icebreaker which I got a lot of positive feedback from.

One of the major challenges for new teachers is lesson pacing (time and classroom management). For example, the requirements for the icebreaker is that it be no more than 5 minutes long (per your initial post). Keep in mind, icebreakers are generally short, getting-to-know-you type of activities for first-time students rather than full-on instructional activities. Do an Internet search on icebreaker one-to-one private student.

Additionally, you need to actually present/teach the grammar and incorporate it into an interactive practice/production activity for the learner. Having him/her just complete a worksheet won't cut it; never assume students understand what, how, why, when... a new grammar item is used in its various forms. So whatever grammar you're focusing on, you need to be able to explain it. Your demo "student" may ask you those questions.

Your planned demo is too long. The employer is expecting a 20-minute "taste" of your teaching; a demo isn't intended to be a full lesson with every activity completed from start to finish as you would in a normal teaching situation.


Right now I'm debating a few things.

For icebreaker: either do a roleplay hotel staff/fast food staff or
show them 2 pictures (beach and mountains) ask them questions like:
What is this, where should I go and why?
Get them to ask me these 2 pre-written questions :
What is the best holiday that you have ever been on?
Who did you go with and how long did you stay?

grammer: I will take your suggestion and cut it out to only 1 exercise

a few minutes for explaination and a few minutes for them to work on the exercise which is prewritten on a whiteboard

Fill in the sentences with the correct form (past simple) of the appropriate verb, and then match the sentences to the pictures.

A) Read
B) Catch
C) Set
D) Fight
E) Wash Up
F) Tell
G) Take
H) Sit
I) Make
J) Watch
K) Have
L) Eat
M) Rain
N) Do
O) Dance

1) Mum _washed up_ after lunch.
2) The maid ____ the beds in the rooms.
3) It ________ a lot yesterday.
4) The boys __after school.
5) The fortune teller ______ me my future.
6) Dave _______ a slice of pizza.
7) The couple _________ TV last night.
Cool Tim _________ the table.
9) Dad _________ a fairy tale to his children.
10) Dave ___________ a bath.
11) The ambulance ______ the injured man to the hospital.
12) Owen __________ the homework.
13) Fred ____ a cold yesterday.
14) Jane ______ in the disco last weekend.
15) The couple ___________ on the bench in the park.


module 1 from textbook: just pick 1 exercise from the textbook

One exercise I saw is: What have you got in common? You are going to find out what you got in common and what differences there are between you. Choose at least 6 topics on the left to ask about.


people you live with?
married or single?
type of home?
sports?
computer/internet?
shopping?
food?
travelling?
etc.

things in common use words like: me too, that's the same for me

finding differences: I' opposite, I do something else, etc


Do you think this demo lesson looks good? I'm one day away from the interview and its stressing me the *beep* out.
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Hod



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit late now to revamp the lesson. All I would suggest is to remove the gap fill exercise as that alone will take ten (very silent) minutes, is actually very difficult, has no connection with the rest of the lesson and most importantly gives you no opportunity to show what you can do as a teacher.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
It's a bit late now to revamp the lesson. All I would suggest is to remove the gap fill exercise as that alone will take ten (very silent) minutes, is actually very difficult, has no connection with the rest of the lesson and most importantly gives you no opportunity to show what you can do as a teacher.


Well I got to give them some sort of grammar and pronunciation exercise. The HR manager told me they wanted to see some sort of exercise for either past/present simple tenses.

Another exercise I created was just giving them words and asking them to write that word in past simple tense in a sentence they create. I would give them like 5-6 words to practice.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, they want past simple.

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First, back to the gap fill:

1. Does it actually teach the student(s)?
2. Does it allow you to show how you can teach? This is a demo aka a job interview.

For 1, no. You’ve gone in cold and assumed they know those regular and irregular verbs already. I said it was a difficult exercise, and you may well spend 40 minutes explaining it.

As for 2, you’ll be sat at the other end of a camera for at least ten minutes in silence watching the student or students. Gap fills have their uses now and then, but never during a demo. In any case, if I did a gap fill, I’d be walking around checking and correcting individual students’ work, quietly. You can’t do it via Skype.

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You’re packing way too much in. Your lesson as is will take at least one hour.

They want past simple. Do it. Nothing else.

As no one else is biting (this is a teachers' forum, shameful), I’ll offer an outline of what I’d do in a 20-minute demo.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/reward-elementary-141205092517-conversion-gate02/95/reward-elementary-54-638.jpg?cb=1417771826

Poor Fabio is an oft-used past simple exercise for pre-intermediate upwards.

1. Icebreaker (2 minutes)

Show a photo of the Pope and the Coliseum. Ask where this is. (Rome). Ask what country (Italy). How’s the weather? (Quite sunny).

2. Story time – intro (2 minutes)
a) Show picture 1 and ask where Fabio is. (Rome) How do you know? (Sunny, t-shirt weather)
b) Show picture 2 and ask where Fabio is. (Not Rome, not important). How do you know? (Cloudy, pullover weather). What’s he holding? (A book). Why? (Get them to work out he’s a student).
c) Model past simple sentences in the past simple:

Fabio was from Rome.
Fabio studied abroad/overseas/in some cold place.

3. Story time (10 minutes)
Students use the pictures and past simple to tell Fabio’s story. You have the example sentences, but the students only have to loosely follow the plot. You will help with vocab when necessary but take a back seat and let them speak.

4. Recap/Feedback (5 minutes)
Go through Fabio’s story with the class, highlight and correct any errors you heard.

5. Homework (1 minute, why not?)
Write Fabio’s story.

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The above isn’t a lesson. It’s a demo. It will be fun for the student(s) and show how you teach, i.e. a mixture of presentation teacher-centred activities and student-centred work.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
OK, they want past simple.

---------------------------

First, back to the gap fill:

1. Does it actually teach the student(s)?
2. Does it allow you to show how you can teach? This is a demo aka a job interview.

For 1, no. You’ve gone in cold and assumed they know those regular and irregular verbs already. I said it was a difficult exercise, and you may well spend 40 minutes explaining it.

As for 2, you’ll be sat at the other end of a camera for at least ten minutes in silence watching the student or students. Gap fills have their uses now and then, but never during a demo. In any case, if I did a gap fill, I’d be walking around checking and correcting individual students’ work, quietly. You can’t do it via Skype.

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You’re packing way too much in. Your lesson as is will take at least one hour.

They want past simple. Do it. Nothing else.

As no one else is biting (this is a teachers' forum, shameful), I’ll offer an outline of what I’d do in a 20-minute demo.

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/reward-elementary-141205092517-conversion-gate02/95/reward-elementary-54-638.jpg?cb=1417771826

Poor Fabio is an oft-used past simple exercise for pre-intermediate upwards.

1. Icebreaker (2 minutes)

Show a photo of the Pope and the Coliseum. Ask where this is. (Rome). Ask what country (Italy). How’s the weather? (Quite sunny).

2. Story time – intro (2 minutes)
a) Show picture 1 and ask where Fabio is. (Rome) How do you know? (Sunny, t-shirt weather)
b) Show picture 2 and ask where Fabio is. (Not Rome, not important). How do you know? (Cloudy, pullover weather). What’s he holding? (A book). Why? (Get them to work out he’s a student).
c) Model past simple sentences in the past simple:

Fabio was from Rome.
Fabio studied abroad/overseas/in some cold place.

3. Story time (10 minutes)
Students use the pictures and past simple to tell Fabio’s story. You have the example sentences, but the students only have to loosely follow the plot. You will help with vocab when necessary but take a back seat and let them speak.

4. Recap/Feedback (5 minutes)
Go through Fabio’s story with the class, highlight and correct any errors you heard.

5. Homework (1 minute, why not?)
Write Fabio’s story.

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The above isn’t a lesson. It’s a demo. It will be fun for the student(s) and show how you teach, i.e. a mixture of presentation teacher-centred activities and student-centred work.



Thanks for the feedback. I think I will model something similar to your suggestion with the photos and incorporating it into a grammar exercise in past tense.

ice breaker 5 minutes: show them 2 pictures (beach and mountains) ask them questions like:
What is this, where should I go and why?
Get them to ask me these 2 pre-written questions :
What is the best holiday that you have ever been on?
Who did you go with and how long did you stay?

grammar and pronunciation 10 minutes:

a) Show picture 1 (timesquare) of me in nyc and ask where I was. (nyc) How do you know? (time square, says new york)

Provide them with an example sentence "You were in ___"

b) show picture 2 of me (statue of liberty) in nyc and ask where I was (nyc), how do you know? (can see statue), summer or winter? How do you know? etc.
c) model past simple sentences in the past simple. I don't know understand what you mean by this. Are you talking about providing the student with the past simple sentences or asking them to come up with it?

c) work on 1 exercise from textbook module 1 5 min

d) review any errors the student may have made and recap

end lesson.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
As no one else is biting (this is a teachers' forum, shameful), I’ll offer an outline of what I’d do in a 20-minute demo.

That's unfair criticism. The purpose of the demo is to assess the OP's ability to 1) put together a short, cohesive lesson per the employer's guidelines; and 2) exhibit good time and classroom management while teaching --- his competence as a teacher. This is why some of us offered advice/suggestions on planning or tweaking his demo as opposed to getting specific on the content and designing a whole demo lesson for him. (We expect our students to do their own high-stakes assignment using what they've learned with minimal to zero help from a third party.)

The OP didn't consider the advice given nor stick with the employer's criteria on what the 20-minute demo should entail, but that's mostly because he's completely new to teaching and has never had any TEFL training. I wish him luck, but he has to do this on his own (and hope the interviewer doesn't ask questions about his teaching strategy, why he chose a certain activity, how he'd explain X grammar, etc.).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, but in the absence of any training, I thought he'd sort of use something similar to my demo instead of

Quote:
c) work on 1 exercise from textbook module 1 5 min


Which isn't any sort of plan. If textbook exercises took five minutes, courses and whole levels would be done in a few days.

I seriously doubt the employer in this case will ask about strategy.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The students will be mainly age 25+ probably college/career oriented professionals


Russian adult students will eat this guy alive in short order. They're highly unlikely to be interested in (or already unable to) talk generally about holidays or ordering food at McDonalds. They're not going to be like Asians (25 years old but acting 15).

Dunno what the options are in the book the OP mentions early on, but hopefully something a bit more apt than fast food or 'where am I?'

I recommend a CELTA or equivalent course before tackling Russian adults.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod's demo is well done. If you compare it to yours, you'll see that it functions logically - icebreaker, vocabulary review (before jumping into grammar), model grammar, use visuals to produce the modeled grammar, consolidation, extension activities.

Your activity doesn't follow a structure that allows for students to do this. Depending on the student, your opening questions could lead to a good 15 minute conversation itself. Did you write that they ask you? That would waste time with you talking.

Fortune teller, fairy tale, disco - these terms would confuse some students and require explanation. If a student is still doing simple past, would they know what a fortune teller is? Maybe.

The rest is just too long. If you don't use Hod's actual plan, I suggest you at least use his format of lesson plan. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all do slightly different plans, but I like this structure:

1. Ice-breaker
2. Presentation

3. Explanation
4. Guided practice/model
5. Independent practice (alone or in groups)
6. Assessment (informal or formal)

7. Closure
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
Hod's demo is well done.


Gee, thanks. It's the best I could suggest for a mystery demo done via Skype.

Bear in mind (OP), Poor Fabio was for a "fun" demo lesson. The only "teaching" input was modelling the two past simple sentences. Then it was straight into the exercise. Not great teaching, but very interactive for you and the student(s).

It's up to you, but Poor Fabio is already a printable lesson which has been tried and tested.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Quote:
The students will be mainly age 25+ probably college/career oriented professionals


Russian adult students will eat this guy alive in short order. They're highly unlikely to be interested in (or already unable to) talk generally about holidays or ordering food at McDonalds. They're not going to be like Asians (25 years old but acting 15).

Dunno what the options are in the book the OP mentions early on, but hopefully something a bit more apt than fast food or 'where am I?'

I recommend a CELTA or equivalent course before tackling Russian adults.


If a job was offering to pay me $10 an hr to teach with a CELTA I wouldn't even have bothered to apply for it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod wrote:
santi84 wrote:
Hod's demo is well done.


Gee, thanks. It's the best I could suggest for a mystery demo done via Skype.

Bear in mind (OP), Poor Fabio was for a "fun" demo lesson. The only "teaching" input was modelling the two past simple sentences. Then it was straight into the exercise. Not great teaching, but very interactive for you and the student(s).

It's up to you, but Poor Fabio is already a printable lesson which has been tried and tested.


Thank you for sharing your demo lesson. Anyways I got hired for the job, so we'll see how it goes with the students, but I know Russians are more blunt and direct when it comes to these things so I'm anticipating difficult students to work with. I used my strengths during the demo interview which was humor and personality to win over the "student". I also got a surprise guest during the interview (another women who I suppose was another manager or something). That kind of threw me off since the HR manager told me it was just going to be them. Anyways I got a lot of good feedback from them saying it was very fun and interactive and they cut me off halfway into the textbook exercise saying they saw enough and it was good.

I asked the manager what they were expecting for the lessons when I teach the students but she couldn't really answer the question (looked confused). I'm still confused as well as to what exactly they want me to do whether it being just a conversational partner with them and teaching a few things or if they want me to be an actual English teacher with like a teaching degree. I wasn't expecting high expectations from them since the pay is very low ($10 per a 45 minute lesson). I'm so broke right now I'm taking whatever I can get. I plan on using the money I make from this job to pay for a CELTA somewhere down the line.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a plan. Some part-time entry-level stuff, save some cash and, if you're still interested in teaching in a year or so, splash the cash on a CELTA.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thunder_god wrote:
I'm so broke right now I'm taking whatever I can get. I plan on using the money I make from this job to pay for a CELTA somewhere down the line.

Seriously, if this is your only source of income, at $10/hr, it will be eons before you can afford a $2000+ CELTA.

For now, as I've suggested (numerous times), go the volunteer ESL teaching assistant route at one of your local ESL/refugee nonprofits -- just a couple hours a week of your time teaching alongside an experienced classroom teacher who can guide and mentor you. Plus, these organizations generally offer some free basic teacher training to their volunteers.
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