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scot47
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| Hypocrisy, corruption and vice are the exclusive preserve of the Moors ! Plumpy told me. |
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murray1978
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Hi Kong,
I am reading your thread now. This is news to me. I am using Global Visa Services based out of Ottawa and my agent and I have been in consistent contact.
I wasn't a direct hire though. I did need to attest THEN authorize my CELTA but my BA wasn't because it is a Journalism major.
I sent her all of my letters of reference and documents. From what she told me, I am set. I do need a visa number.
However, hearing this is very worrying. Honestly, this will be my last contract in the ME. it is too much of a hassle for documentation and the visa number is pretty much at the mercy of whomever is doing your paperwork. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| murray1978 wrote: |
This is news to me. I am using Global Visa Services based out of Ottawa and my agent and I have been in consistent contact.
I wasn't a direct hire though. I did need to attest THEN authorize my CELTA but my BA wasn't because it is a Journalism major. |
Correction on my part about you being a direct hire, although you stated in other threads that you signed a contract "with" the University of Dammam. 
Anyway, the OP already has his/her employment visa in hand, so the employer's request for attested employment verification documents doesn't seem to be a visa requirement. |
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priceless_1
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm in a similar situation. I'm a direct hire also. I received my visa after a couple months of processing/attesting/running about.
Just as I'm trying to sort out the flights, they say I need to get all my experience letters attested in order to get the agreed upon salary.
I was hoping there was an easy solution to this.
Does anybody know if previous Saudi Arabia experience also needs to be attested?
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| priceless_1 wrote: |
Just as I'm trying to sort out the flights, they say I need to get all my experience letters attested in order to get the agreed upon salary.
I was hoping there was an easy solution to this.
Does anybody know if previous Saudi Arabia experience also needs to be attested? |
Ask your uni contact person if the Saudi experience documents need to be attested. Frankly, the employer should inform job candidates about this requirement during the interview and not after the visa has been issued.
Only a few posters have mentioned needing attested experience letters. It's unknown if this requirement is per the same employer since no has indicated the name of the university. |
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priceless_1
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
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Just as I'm trying to sort out the flights, they say I need to get all my experience letters attested in order to get the agreed upon salary.
I was hoping there was an easy solution to this.
Does anybody know if previous Saudi Arabia experience also needs to be attested? |
Ask your uni contact person if the Saudi experience documents need to be attested. Frankly, the employer should inform job candidates about this requirement during the interview and not after the visa has been issued.
Only a few posters have mentioned needing attested experience letters. It's unknown if this requirement is per the same employer since no has indicated the name of the university. |
I have got confirmation that the Saudi experience does NOT need to be attested.
It seems like the attesting of experience letters is all related to the salary calculation. Withholding this info til the last minute is ridiculous! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| priceless_1 wrote: |
| It seems like the attesting of experience letters is all related to the salary calculation. Withholding this info til the last minute is ridiculous! |
Actually, employment verification letters/certificates are not uncommon throughout the Gulf for direct-hire positions. And yes, they're used to calculate salary. However, it's only been within the last 6 or so months that a couple of posters have mentioned having to get theirs attested.
It comes across as sneaky; the employer waits until the last minute because they know the job candidate won't be able to get all the letters attested, and thus, will have their salary offer reduced.
By the way, which university is requesting attestation? |
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priceless_1
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| priceless_1 wrote: |
| I have got confirmation that the Saudi experience does NOT need to be attested. |
Perhaps attestation is primarily for experience gained outside the Gulf. What other countries/regions have you worked in? |
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hash
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| priceless_1 wrote: |
| It seems like the attesting of experience letters is all related to the salary calculation. Withholding this info til the last minute is ridiculous! |
No, it isn't ridiculous....not really. It's a well calculated and intentional procedure to pay you less........... and guess what....you fell right into it. This was not a "mistake" as you first told yourself. This was long in the works long before you ever heard of this employer. This has nothing to do with "you".
It would be great, of course, if you were not really interested in the job and just strung them along until the very last moment and then said "Oh, I've changed my mind due to the low salary" or some such.
You also have to keep an open mind about what this portends for your future with this employer. If they are willing to go to these sneaky lengths to save a few riyals so early in the game, just imagine how important they really think you are in the scheme of things over there - be aware of the treatment you might have to put up with as an easily ignored employee.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. EFL teachers are invariably overwhelmed (there's no other word for it) when they get "hired" for a job in the Gulf......All kinds of fantasies suddenly appear on the horizon none of which has any basis in fact or evidence....they're pure hallucinations. The self-delusion that "someone" has finally recognized one's "true worth" is one of the cruelest consequences of this scenario.
But to finally come to realize that your Gulf employer not only could care less about you but has what can only be described as utter contempt for you and your job is an embittering experience to go through to say the least.
No one likes to face the fact that you never were, that you aren't now and that you will never be important to a Gulf employer. When realization finally dawns, as it invariably must, it is quite a world-shattering epiphany for many.
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scot47
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Not all employers are ratbags. It took me a long time to find it but KFUPM actually treated me very well. Their treatment of me when I required open-heart surgery was better than I would have expected from any employer.
Before that I had other experiences in KSA - including a mediocre contractor who made more out of my teaching than I did. |
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