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nnest
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 Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:29 am Post subject: Non-native speaker teaching in Afghanistan or Iraq? |
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Would it be hopelessly naive for a Russian citizen (no passports other than Russian) to expect to find a TEFL job in Afghanistan or Iraq?
2 years of teaching experience, a CELTA, an unrelated university degree. Experience teaching in developing countries.
Pay in East/Southeast Asia is 2000 USD a month tops for that kind of quals, and in Russia it will probably be closer to 200 in the near future.
My understanding is that jobs in Afghanistan and Iraq pay better and employers cannot be too picky about who they hire, but truth be told, I don't know anything about the Middle East—other than the fact that the region is one of the largest producers of dead human bodies—so maybe I'm missing something. |
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nomad soul
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That's not likely. The type of position you're thinking of gets filled with native speakers (usually US citizens) who tend to have a military background and/or solid teaching/training skills. These are US government subcontracted jobs -- some require security clearance. Additionally, qualified Afghan and Iraqi EFL teachers also teach in their homeland.
See: Don't lump all of the Mid East together; each country is different. Besides, if you believe it's unsafe, why are you asking about jobs in the region? Anyway, with a Russian passport, an unrelated BA, and minimal experience, you're not likely to qualify for a TEFL job in the ME unless you obtain some serious education. Otherwise, try the British Council in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also, China might be a good option for you. Either way, the pay won't be stellar. |
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hash
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native speaker teaching in Afghanistan or Iraq? |
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| nnest wrote: |
| but truth be told, I don't know anything about the Middle East— |
Really? That's odd because newspapers world-wide carry daily stories about hordes of your countrymen (ooops...countrypersons) doing their thing in Syria which is, of course, a Middle Eastern country.
Perhaps you should seek work there..... not teaching English, but teaching Russian...you might have better luck there.... До свидания! |
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nnest
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, nomad soul.
| nomad soul wrote: |
| ... if you believe it's unsafe, why are you asking about jobs in the region? |
Because certain unsafe places seem to pay better ...
| hash wrote: |
... Syria which is, of course, a Middle Eastern country.
Perhaps you should seek work there ... |
... and others don't. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| It is unlikely that you will get more than US$2000 a month, if you get anything at all in the Middle East. There are security implications. I know that it is unfair but.......so it goes as Kilgore Trout would say. |
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cartago
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Non-native speaker teaching in Afghanistan or Iraq? |
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You could find work in Iraqi Kurdistan but the pay is unlikely to be above $2000.
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| nnest wrote: |
| but truth be told, I don't know anything about the Middle East— |
Really? That's odd because newspapers world-wide carry daily stories about hordes of your countrymen (ooops...countrypersons) doing their thing in Syria which is, of course, a Middle Eastern country.
Perhaps you should seek work there..... not teaching English, but teaching Russian...you might have better luck there.... До свидания! |
So because Russia is a big player in the Syrian civil war that means all of its citizens must know about the Middle East including job prospects there? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| nnest wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| ... if you believe it's unsafe, why are you asking about jobs in the region? |
Because certain unsafe places seem to pay better ... |
That's a myth. Privately-owned, for-profit language schools aren't big salary gigs and are more likely to hire qualified locals or resident expats than go through the hassle of recruiting from abroad. Plus, if/when things go sour, those employers aren't likely to pay for airfare out of the country.
By contrast, government subcontracted teachers/trainers (I was one myself) in danger zone situations are in a different category due to the nature of the teaching post or project. Requirements for these positions are very specific, especially the citizenship component. |
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nnest
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| Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, everyone. I guess I'll just stick to Southeast Asia, where I'm sufficiently qualified and where heads aren't rolling. |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| A non-native teacher is not going to make 2000 USD teaching in SE Asia. |
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Blackbear
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