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Non-native English teachers in Japan?
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Nemu_Yoake



Joined: 02 Aug 2015
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Jesso, Dettark is right. It can happen. It happened to one of my friends (she is German and it was for teaching English at an eikawa). Her boss had to go to the immigration to explain that he really wanted her and she finally got her visa.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a woman through martial arts training who taught French, and she's a near-native speaker of English. I don't know how she acquired a visa, but she was independent, i.e. not on a spousal or student visa.

Interac has posted job ads in the past for other language teachers.

Do you have a teaching credential? Certification of language proficiency? Those might boost your resume.
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Dettark



Joined: 27 Jan 2016
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
I met a woman through martial arts training who taught French, and she's a near-native speaker of English. I don't know in the ow she acquired a visa, but she was independent, i.e. not on a spousal or student visa.

Interac has posted job ads in the past for other language teachers.

Do you have a teaching credential? Certification of language proficiency? Those might boost your resume.


I think it's funny how they often say that you only have to be of native like fluency and not actually be a native speaker of English and then in the next sentence say you have to have recieved 12 years of schooling primarily in English. I can understand their thinking but it's also frustrating.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's telling you that, Dettark?

I've coached students through the Eiken 1kyu test and interview. My students were near-native, and they passed because they had more than just spoken fluency - they could apply academic and cognitive skills in English. They achieved this level of proficiency with much less than 12 years of English education due to having studied in the UK or US for a few years.

How about a TOEFL score? Would that satisfy the potential employers?
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Dettark



Joined: 27 Jan 2016
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Who's telling you that, Dettark?

I've coached students through the Eiken 1kyu test and interview. My students were near-native, and they passed because they had more than just spoken fluency - they could apply academic and cognitive skills in English. They achieved this level of proficiency with much less than 12 years of English education due to having studied in the UK or US for a few years.

How about a TOEFL score? Would that satisfy the potential employers?


Just check out Gaijinpot's job section! Most if not all companies are looking for native speakers/native fluent speakers with a valid visa already residing in Japan, and getting that first visa is difficult if you are a non native.

Most companies don't want to deal with non native speakers. Some would consider interviewing you if you recieved 12 years of schooling in English though. I can understand why they have that requirement but it's also kind of ignorant.
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jesso92



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have been studying here in the States since High school, graduated from college here too, then even got a TEFL certificate to increase my odds... but, nothing.

You know whats funny though? GABA keeps posting the they need people, almost daily... so why would they reject me. I mean, I know my interview probably wasn't perfect, they did throw me a curve ball, and stumbled on it.
But I was personable, I wore a suit, I was more than competent, and I'm a decent looking white guy. I realize how arrogant that sounds, but know that that's most definitely not my intention when I say that last thing. It's just that I imagine looks matter in this kind of business, and specially in Japan.

I dont know man, just doesn't add up. Unless the couple people that interviewed me just were abnormally strict. Anyways, we'll see what happens.
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Dettark



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jesso92 wrote:
Well, I have been studying here in the States since High school, graduated from college here too, then even got a TEFL certificate to increase my odds... but, nothing.

You know whats funny though? GABA keeps posting the they need people, almost daily... so why would they reject me. I mean, I know my interview probably wasn't perfect, they did throw me a curve ball, and stumbled on it.
But I was personable, I wore a suit, I was more than competent, and I'm a decent looking white guy. I realize how arrogant that sounds, but know that that's most definitely not my intention when I say that last thing. It's just that I imagine looks matter in this kind of business, and specially in Japan.

I dont know man, just doesn't add up. Unless the couple people that interviewed me just were abnormally strict. Anyways, we'll see what happens.


You said your accent is pretty thick? Maybe that could be the issue they're having?

Maybe you have to get some real teaching experience? Head to China for a year or two, and then reapply? Or go to Japan directly.

By the way, you B.A was not related to teaching in any way right?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jesso92 wrote:
Well, I have been studying here in the States since High school, graduated from college here too, then even got a TEFL certificate to increase my odds... but, nothing.

You know whats funny though? GABA