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Volver



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:56 pm    Post subject: manners Reply with quote

I have to do a quick unit on manners for our students heading over to the US in a few months. They are all 15-17 and going into high school or junior college. I have very little time for this, so my idea was to touch on the manners that are OK in China but awful in the West. So far:

hacking and spitting
chewing with your mouth open
bones on the table or floor
nose blows
cutting in front of people
dental hygiene

What am I missing? Any other suggestions for teaching the little darlings how to act civilized?

Thanks.

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Mr. Leafy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

- please and thank you
- be aware of other people's personal space (including physical and noise)

But some of the needed advice depends on where you are. (I'm sure you've mentioned, but I forgot.) There are things I would have told my small town students that I don't need to in my current job.

But I think several guides on this topic have been published already. Shouldn't be too hard to find and borrow.

edited to add; FLUSH!
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covering their nose and mouth when they cough, sneeze, and yawn.
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wawaguagua



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ew. The other day I saw a grown man standing by the side of the road pressing one nostril shut with his finger and blowing a huge wad of mucus out of the other nostril. I mean, yes, that must feel very relieving, but pick a more private place, could you?

An overview of US tipping practices would probably be helpful for them.

They could probably use a reminder that just because other people around them are foreign doesn't mean they can't understand one's Mandarin social commentary. There are many “foreigners” who can speak varying degrees of Chinese these days and making the wrong comment might get you in trouble.

They could also probably stand to be told that saying “那个那个” (neh guh neh guh) as a speech filler might be misinterpreted as a certain racial slur.

Also:
- You shouldn't leave a door open when you enter or leave a store or restaurant (when the door doesn't automatically close).

- Men rolling up their shirts to expose their bare stomach is considered strange behavior overseas.
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rioux



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a sign or signs read "No smoking" it really means "No Smoking".

One way streets really mean one way streets.

There is no need to scream in your phone.

Teach about what not to do on an airplane - smoking, pissing/crapping should be done in the lavatory (door should be shut and locked) and when finishing up shut the door behind you (no need to slam it) to prevent the smell of what you have done from permeating throughout the plane. Furthermore, please do not open the emergency exit to smoke, get fresh air, be the first one out of the plane, and/or wave good-by to friends/relatives.

It should also be pointed out that setting off fireworks inside the airport is not acceptable behavior.
http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0302/c90000-9024050.html


I saw this the other day at a buffet. A woman used her spoon to taste the food before putting it in her plate. She didn't like the food so she put the part she didn't eat from the spoon back in the tray. It was nasty. Shocked
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone older than a small child should be addressed directly. Asking "who is she/he?" about someone standing right next to the speaker bothers me, and probably many others.
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Babala



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a PPT on cultural differences using those East vs West pictures. I showed them each picture and asked them to describe the differences. PM me if you want it.

Also Bogglesworld has some worksheets on bad habits that are suitable for this age.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably pull some ideas from this Breaking News English lesson, "China Vice Premier asks tourists to behave". You could also incorporate a group activity using a Venn diagram to compare and contrast manners between American and Chinese cultures.
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go out to dinner with someone and spend 90% of the time on your phone.
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not use dinner plates as shovels at the buffet.

Google rude Chinese buffet in Thailand, Shanghai list.
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an overall approach, rather than pointing out every difference you might start with a simple principle. I find that most of the headaches/grumbles I have here stem from one issue: a lack of consideration or thought for others and how your behaviour might be having an impact on them. I have not been back for a while, and nowhere is perfect, but I know that what I had drilled into me growing up was that the best way to behave socially was to think about others, rather than myself, and adjust my actions accordingly. You might get them to build or brainstorm from there.

Otherwise, I have used this series of pictures in culture class before to discuss stereotypes, their truths and the possible reasons/ideas behind them: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/german-vs-chinese-what-are-the-cultural-differences. Some of them might be appropriate, and they were done by a Chinese person.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volver,

You seem to enjoy seeing others cast Chinese in a rather dim light. This particular thread you started comes to mind:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=104942&highlight=
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reply to the guy above me, they hardly help themselves though do they?
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wawaguagua



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiverMystic wrote:
Do not use dinner plates as shovels at the buffet.

Google rude Chinese buffet in Thailand, Shanghai list.


Here in the city where I work, we have these cheap "overnight spas" where you pay 40-70 yuan, turn in your shoes and socks, put on a bathrobe, and get a 24 hour pass to use most of the facilities - a swimming pool, treadmills, hot tubs, a sauna, a shower room, and "sleeping rooms" full of recliners with a big TV to watch films. The price also includes two buffet meals that are first come, first serve, and you can imagine exactly how that plays out.

The most creative buffet warriors always show up with their whole family. Grandma fills an entire meal cafeteria tray with rice (instead of the small, individual-sized bowls that are intended for that purpose), while the rest all stack their trays with the other foods so that they can get a full family banquet experience out of it. At the center of the table is little Tian Mei with her pigtails or little Li Chun with his mini-mullet, who decide they don't even like this food despite their family members' best efforts to assemble this feast. Instead of teaching the young one a lesson about gratitude, the rest of the family pat their darling monarch on the head and let him eat the snacks they smuggled in through mom's purse. In the end, a lot of the food they nabbed goes to waste, but that's not their concern.
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If a sign or signs read "No smoking" it really means "No Smoking".


To me it means someone put up a sign .....


perhaps it is not the people but the Buffet that causes rude behavior....the MSG content over stimulates the section of the brain that causes rude outburst and the "plate shovel" syndrome that we often see displayed at Chinese buffets....this is a review from a diner at China_Buffet-Madison_Alabama

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the people are rude, and the food is cold on the buffet. i've went here a handful of times and it seems like someone is always on the phone the whole time i'm there. once our waitress was on her cellphone walking around talking really loudly . the food isnt impressive at all, a lot of it tastes the same even.



Buffets and beer nuts are cesspools of bacteria....
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